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Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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post #15

I wish there was a switch in the mass production of products to contain neither sugar or sweeteners. But it feels like that is never going to happen.

I just started brewing my own tea and coffee, unsweetened. Snack foods are a bit harder, but we are better off eating whole fruits and vegetables anyway.

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

#52
post #2

The weird thing about this is that i stopped drinking Diet Coke, specifically because of aspartame, after reading this same thing in 1996 or perhaps early 97. WHO's decision to wait nearly 30 years before backing that just makes them look impotent.

Where's the proof that drinking Diet Coke causes literally any health issue that is a direct relation to the aspartame itself specifically? Because I don't think that has ever existed because it's not actually harmful in this way... meanwhile your post reads like FUD.

Where's your proof that gravity exists and that we fully understand all of its effects?

Science doesn't work that way. Meanwhile aspartame has been linked to many health problems.

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nitrate-free (or, "no nitrates added") bacon still contains nitrates. About the same amount as standard bacon, and in some cases, more. https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cooksillustrated/how_tos...

In the UK, we have nitrate-free bacon available that is actually nitra(i)te free: https://www.betternaked.com/products/better-naked-unsmoked-b...

I'm intrigued. That seems a fair bit different than the uncured bacon I'm familiar with in the US [0], but I would certainly give it a try.

[0]: https://applegate.com/products/natural-thick-cut-bacon

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

#54
Donald Rumsfeld was famously influential in getting aspartame's approval ; however more of the story behind this can be found here: https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/8846759/Nill,_As...

In 1984 the year after aspartame's approval for soft drinks, the company that held the exclusive patent on it, sold $600 million worth (1984 dollars) of it.

Myself the truly distasteful part is the use of neotame (a follow-on to aspartame) on animal feed, to get animals to eat feed that they normally would not; for instance, if the feed is rancid or otherwise in a condition/taste that normal animal instincts, would have the animal reject the food...

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nitrate-free (or, "no nitrates added") bacon still contains nitrates. About the same amount as standard bacon, and in some cases, more. https://www.americastestkitchen.com/cooksillustrated/how_tos...

In the UK, we have nitrate-free bacon available that is actually nitra(i)te free: https://www.betternaked.com/products/better-naked-unsmoked-b...

I don't see anything on that site that says anything other than nitrates weren't added. Where are you seeing that it's actually nitrate free?

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

#56

Reminder that bacon is already a known carcinogen for those worrying about artificial sweeteners but happily eating processed meats.

It’s actually sodium nitrite that’s carcinogenic (after being exposed to high heat), and I can find bacon without sodium nitrite here pretty much at every grocery store.

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Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s actually sodium nitrite that’s carcinogenic (after being exposed to high heat), and I can find bacon without sodium nitrite here pretty much at every grocery store.

If you read carefully, it still contains sodium nitrite except as powdered celery. So the source of the sodium nitrate is “natural” but the dose is still the same.

Fml so I’ve been paying more for nitrite free bacon that still has nitrite in it?

It feels like saying something contains no nitrites or preservatives and then including them in the form of cultured celery extract should be fraud/false advertising and a crime.

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

#58

Ok I’ll be that guy. The study says there’s no risk unless you drink equivalent of 70 cokes per day. So I think I’m ok. Barely.

I've been hearing that type of argument since the 70s, after they banned saccharine.

Let's suppose a chemical causes slow damage to the body, maybe greatly increasing your risk of cancer or alzheimers if you drink a can of diet soda per day. How could we possibly know if it is safe?

We often test chemicals on rats, but the problem is that they only live a few years. No one wants to wait 20+ years to see the results of an expensive study on longer lived mammals anyway.

The solution is we feed the rats excessive amounts of the chemical and see if it causes problems. This isn't a great way to do it, but what other option would you suggest?

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

#59

When I accidentally ingest food or drinks containing aspartame, it takes me out for at least 24h with a hellish migraine.

being a statistical outlier means you don't count. Good luck explaining that to your doctors.

Statistical outlier? Aspartame is known to be linked to migraine triggering:

- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2708042/

- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18627677/

- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28198207/

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

#60

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IARC_group_2B I read through this list before when I was talking to a conspiracy theorist about 5G. Radio frequencies are on this list. As are caffeic acid (found in coffee, wine, mint), aloe vera and pickled vegetables.

Caffeic acid may be a carcinogen but I do not think any decent studies have found a connection between drinking coffee and cancer, and in fact some have found the opposite.

A bigger problem is likely caffeine inhibiting uptake of vitamin D and disrupting sleep.
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