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Universally? No one can say that, but at large, men have been hostile to women in most cultures including most of the modern non-western societies: China, India, Korea, Japan, Middle East, South & Central America, Russia, etc. There are exceptions, but to pretend that they are relevant to current public health crisis is a red herring at best.
As a Middle Easterner, we reject that notion.
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> smack our kid into submission What does this mean? I never talk child care in any significant way on the net, so I feel there are way to many ways too misinterpret this. Even the nice interpretation of this would border on illegal here. (FWIW I think I agree with you on all accounts and I have had it easy)
>> smack our kid into submission > What does this mean? It only has one possible meaning: beat your child until they comply. A large percentage of parents have no other response. If they don't use physical violence they may use verbal or psychological violence instead. People have a biological urge to reproduce which they're happy to indulge but are often unprepared for the challenges of raising children. Exasperatio…
I don't think there's any way to really understand what raising a child entails until you've done it.
It is not a father's job to be the person a child goes to for emotional support. A father is indeed supposed to pass down masculinity and how to manage it and how to become a socially functional and acceptable man. Mothers on the other hand are supposed to be the primary person that provides emotional support and care. But, the immediate community is supposed to provide that support as well. This is how human society…
This reads like satire. "ChatGPT, please write a paragraph that embodies the concept of toxic masculinity."
I'm becoming a father in a few months, so I've spent this entire year reflecting on the fathers I know - strengths, weaknesses, things to emulate and things to avoid. Every one of the "good fathers" in that reflection is someone whose child would go to him for emotional support.
It's astounding to me that anyone could believe it's possible to be truly masculine while neutering one's experience of human emotion. Being too afraid of emotion to ever express it, and making your child suffer for your fear, is cowardice, not masculinity.
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I think Jordan Peterson is doing a decent job at this though, his stance on helping young men is quite similar to Tate's, albeit less delusional.
> I think Jordan Peterson is doing a decent job at this though Is he? Nuking a prolific academic career to write terrible self help books, that you yourself ignore and giving yourself brain damage while you endlessly rant on twitter about mostly made up terminally online nonsense seems like the complete opposite of "doing a decent job" to me...
Most of what I've seen is him motivating and trying to help young/lost men, which seems like an admirable cause.
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> Literally EVERYONE who is not a professional told us to smack our kid Respectfully, if that's true I urge you to find a new social circle.
Right? Kids are different, but honestly not that different from adults. Just more impressionable, because they are learning the world. And of course less knowledgeable and developed by definition. But they work a lot of the same ways. Would you make it practice to hit adults??? No? Why are you teaching kids that this is what happens? It makes no sense.
Here's a thought and I am writing this as I don my kevlar flame retardant jacket. For most things in life where we could impact the lives of other people materially - driving is a good example - we ensure some minimal amount of training before letting people perform that activity. However with parenting we have nothing and the result it seems is we pay with a ton more resources downstream in the way of therapy, deten…
It's exactly what my father did. He took parenting classes at the library, because he wanted to learn more and didn't think that just because he considered himself successful in business and life, he would necessarily understand pedagogy. To that, I am eternally grateful to him. It's very hard for people to swallow their pride and admit humility, to say "I don't know" and listen to the experts. I have an immense amou…
At the other end, modern parents have so many restrictions and expectations put on them.
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The director did a good Tedx talk[0] if anyone would like a tl;dr. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WMuzhQXJoY
Just FYI, TEDx is no guarantee at all about the credentials or worthiness of a talk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TED_(conference)#TEDx > TEDx are independent events similar to TED in presentation. They can be organized by anyone who obtains a free license from TED, and agrees to follow certain principles. TEDx events are required to be non-profit, but organizers may use an admission fee or commercial sponsorship to…
This is true, but that's true of all talks (and credentials). It's also no guarantee that I said it was a good talk. But here we are.
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>we know some behaviours which are typically harmful (molestation, violence), but everyone already knows that Horse crap, a huge amount of parents genuinely believe violence is a necessity for child rearing (including frequent repetitions of "spare the rod, spoil the child") to the point that they've even pushed to bring it back into public schools! Even the very basics are not accepted as fact by many.
> Horse crap, a huge amount of parents genuinely believe violence is a necessity for child rearing (including frequent repetitions of "spare the rod, spoil the child") to the point that they've even pushed to bring it back into public schools! The effects of corporal punishment are small compared to the effects of molestation and physical abuse. If corporal punishment were our only "issue", we'd be much better off. I…
Corporal punishment is physical and psychological abuse. It is in the title: punishment is a judgement and corporal is the violence.
There is no such thing as corporal punishment that is also not an abuse. Maybe there is a scale of it but it is abuse.
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The daylight between instituting a parenting license and eugenics is not very much.
that's a hell of a leap - saying take some basic classes (likely not that much unlike how catholic churches require couples classes prior to marrying folks) to understand how to properly care for a child is nothing like eugenics and gene manipulation.