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The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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We just have to take their stupid ad-based monetization scheme away, so we can just pay for what we use like in the good old times. We can start with a law that applies to all social media systems that have more than 1M users.

That would be a nightmare. I would hate to pay for all the stuff I get for free now.

Also if the law only applied to social media >1M users?

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/old-reddit-redirec...

Except I can't do that on my iPhone. No extensions in Edge / Firefox / Chrome.

Brave IOS browser has the ability to redirect automatically which you can setup for reddit.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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> My question is, what’s your solution? Legislation around mergers and acquisitions. Enforcement of existing anti-trust legislation.

That’s being done now. Can’t think of the last time the SEC didn’t sue to block an acquisition in the last 3-4 years with a tech company.

Then the legislation isn't expansive enough.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Won't someone think of the shareholders? This denial of responsability is a cancer on society. Poor devs, they can do no better because their manager ordered them to. Poor managers, they can do no better because they must reach their OKRs. Poor CxOs, they can do no better because they must please the board. Poor board, who must maximize the returns of the shareholders. Poor shareholders, who just want their retiremen…

You very accurately described an example of large technological-societal systems’ overall situation not being subject to rational human control. Yes, read some Ted Kaczynski.

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Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Reddit’s mobile web experience really embraces this–even as a logged in user there is a frequent “Use our app!” popup that has been made progressively more obnoxious. Once upon a time there was a preference option to disable the popup, though it would periodically become unchecked on its own. Then the option to disable it disappeared. Then the popup started appearing not just on page load, but after a period of time…

I decided to uninstall Reddit from my phone. I'm still reaching their website through my browser, read the content (replace URL with old.reddit.com), and if it still doesn't work I decide that the content is not worth the time.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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What's wrong with Cloudflare?

Among other possible criticisms, they hold too much power. So much of the web is behind their walls, if let's say you couldn't access them or decided you didn't want to communicate with CF, huge portions of the web would become off limits.

What's the alternative? As a basic website owner, should we just ditch CDNs and anti-DDOS protection?

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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The fact that it pushes anonymous viewers to log in or sign up is definitely a positive (for their conversion rate metric, if nothing else), and that might be the main reason the number of images is so low. But the specific mechanism of IP blocking that is used to achieve restriction - that is anti-scraping, pure and simple.

... except, that "pro" scrapers use parallelized calls from rolling ip addresses. It is one of the only ways to scrape things like Youtube... so I hear!

Nobody is going to be able to stop motivated, well-resourced, professional scrapers. IP blocks are effective for stopping most trivial scraping.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Won't someone think of the shareholders? This denial of responsability is a cancer on society. Poor devs, they can do no better because their manager ordered them to. Poor managers, they can do no better because they must reach their OKRs. Poor CxOs, they can do no better because they must please the board. Poor board, who must maximize the returns of the shareholders. Poor shareholders, who just want their retiremen…

The idea that everyone involved in the economic system of app development simply lacks moral character is a pretty weak take. Most apps/companies exist within a capitalistic framework. They likely wouldn’t exist without early external capital providing upfront funding for R&D. In your mind, who should bear the cost of building and maintaining large services like Instagram?

It's not that they lack moral character - is that they don't exercise it.

The whole system rewards maximization of profits, and all else is an up hill battle.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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We can keep debating this all day long, nothing is going to change. The best thing to do is stop using these services. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok... We can easily live without them. Our lives might actually be better without them. Why are we spending time debating the ethics of these services? It is like fast food - just avoid. When entities like banks, hospitals, insurance companies etc do shady shit, THAT…

This is definitely the correct approach. I’m always surprised by just how insidious these private platforms are. Eg I’ve seen signs in a local forest saying “dangerous work” would be announced only on the Forestry England facebook page. Similarly, I’ve seen government bodies try to use WhatsApp as their official communication channel. I’m not sure how publicly funded bodies sign off on exclusively using private platf…

Similarly, I’ve seen government bodies try to use WhatsApp as their official communication channel.

There is at least one college that I know of, where every announcement is made on Facebook, and Facebook only. Students are forced to have a FB account.

It is just pure laziness. There are some governments (Europe mostly) that are attempting legislation (banning Google Analytics on gov sites, for example). But law is slow to catch up, incomplete and ineffective.

This is not a problem that can be solved completely by law.

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