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The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by suction »

flangola7 wrote: post #320
acover wrote: post #317

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That's surprising. How do you trivially detect bad data? (Beyond extreme examples like below minimum wage) Even when you know the true distribution (in which case why ask for more data) you can only remove outliers. But outliers exist. There are techniques for when someone enters many numbers but I don't know any for 1 number.

For one, how carefully did the user input information into fields. If you're making it up, it will be much faster and less hesitant than a legitimate entry. That and a hundred other data points help create a ML model that reliability identifies illegitimate activity.

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Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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fariszr wrote: post #306
rrobukef wrote: post #164

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If you open any post with a lot of comments and you want to load more comments you must create an account - no option to disable. They really want to smother all mobile but the app.

That's why you use libreddit instead of the official Reddit site https://github.com/libreddit/libreddit

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Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by theshrike79 »

WirelessGigabit wrote: post #313
RadiozRadioz wrote: post #195

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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/old-reddit-redirec...

Except I can't do that on my iPhone. No extensions in Edge / Firefox / Chrome.

There is an extension to make the non-old Reddit web experience tolerable: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sink-it-for-reddit/id644987363...

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by throwawaymobule »

syphermil wrote: post #29
radarsat1 wrote: post #6

It's actually not that bad a name for this if you think about the concept of 'fuck you' money, ie. that some people have so much money that 'fuck you' they'll do whatever they want. Similarly Instagram can only get away with this behavior because of their level of following as a social media platform. So many people use it that people want to use it to follow others, and will consequently put up with this bullshit, a…

Twitter has a different ‘fuck you pattern’ when you are trying to sign up a new account and they believe you are a spammer. They will force you through never ending captchas that are not meant to verify you, but annoy you until you give up.

I've only gotten a different sort of fuckery, where signup works fine until I follow a single account (or after a few seconds, sometimes) and then I'm banned until I give a phone number.

contacting support used to work after a few days, but not recently.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by Lio »

akudha wrote: post #307
pnt12 wrote: post #274

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Won't someone think of the shareholders? This denial of responsability is a cancer on society. Poor devs, they can do no better because their manager ordered them to. Poor managers, they can do no better because they must reach their OKRs. Poor CxOs, they can do no better because they must please the board. Poor board, who must maximize the returns of the shareholders. Poor shareholders, who just want their retiremen…

We can keep debating this all day long, nothing is going to change. The best thing to do is stop using these services. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok... We can easily live without them. Our lives might actually be better without them. Why are we spending time debating the ethics of these services? It is like fast food - just avoid. When entities like banks, hospitals, insurance companies etc do shady shit, THAT…

This is definitely the correct approach.

I’m always surprised by just how insidious these private platforms are.

Eg I’ve seen signs in a local forest saying “dangerous work” would be announced only on the Forestry England facebook page.

Similarly, I’ve seen government bodies try to use WhatsApp as their official communication channel.

I’m not sure how publicly funded bodies sign off on exclusively using private platforms for coms but it happens and will probably require legal action to stop.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by mcv »

TheAngush wrote: post #186

I had an experience like this today when I tried to use GlassDoor for the first time. As a student making my first ever job applications, I wanted to see what salaries and work environments were like at particular employers. GlassDoor did the same scroll-locking tactic (so an element zapper like Ublock Origin's wouldn't resolve the issue), instructing me to register or sign in to view any information. So I registered…

I've got a few different ways to handle these nag sites, but the annoying part is that I need to remember each separate approach for each site.

For example, for the daily beast, I set the debugger to pause on subtree changes. They remove the article from the dom when you scroll, and the debugger stops that before that happens.

Other sites I just remove the modal popup from the dom and disable the class that prevents scrolling. Some sites I open in archive.is.

What I want is a browser that remembers all these fixes for me and applies them automatically.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

1270018080 wrote: post #283
TheAngush wrote: post #186

I had an experience like this today when I tried to use GlassDoor for the first time. As a student making my first ever job applications, I wanted to see what salaries and work environments were like at particular employers. GlassDoor did the same scroll-locking tactic (so an element zapper like Ublock Origin's wouldn't resolve the issue), instructing me to register or sign in to view any information. So I registered…

Glassdoor is comically broken. It didn't even work with Firefox for months. You can't log in, sometimes you get stuck in a cloudflare authentication loop, random info tabs on company pages crash. It's so bad I don't even know if they have people working there, like they aren't aware of how non-functioning the website is. It's slightly better on Chrome but some of the above issues still persist.

>It didn't even work with Firefox for months

the conclusion would be that us devoted FF users are all happy employees. Considering usage stats I'd say that tracks.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by 5Qn8mNbc2FNCiVV »

mcv wrote: post #366
TheAngush wrote: post #186

I had an experience like this today when I tried to use GlassDoor for the first time. As a student making my first ever job applications, I wanted to see what salaries and work environments were like at particular employers. GlassDoor did the same scroll-locking tactic (so an element zapper like Ublock Origin's wouldn't resolve the issue), instructing me to register or sign in to view any information. So I registered…

I've got a few different ways to handle these nag sites, but the annoying part is that I need to remember each separate approach for each site. For example, for the daily beast, I set the debugger to pause on subtree changes. They remove the article from the dom when you scroll, and the debugger stops that before that happens. Other sites I just remove the modal popup from the dom and disable the class that prevents…

Just disable JS

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by motoxpro »

Eisenstein wrote: post #341
jitix wrote: post #181

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I understand how the market works and how the Gompertz curve looks for new product lifecycles. I have a (professionally useless) masters degree in that. My question is, what’s your solution? The shareholders/stock market (largely represented by the board) will replace any CEO who doesn’t employ patterns (dark, fu, whatever) to maximize revenue. And private companies can’t raise capital easily nor can they give Option…

> My question is, what’s your solution? Legislation around mergers and acquisitions. Enforcement of existing anti-trust legislation.

That’s being done now. Can’t think of the last time the SEC didn’t sue to block an acquisition in the last 3-4 years with a tech company.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by motoxpro »

amelius wrote: post #189
janandonly wrote: post #70

I feel the same burning hate like a thousand suns for FB/Meta, Google/YT and other platforms that monetize their users. But, let's be frank here: They monetize you and me, us, the users because 1 they can and, 2, they have to. Yes, they have to. Imagine they provided access to their platforms for free. How would the shareholders (your retirement funds included) respond when less profit was made? You see, we view them…

We just have to take their stupid ad-based monetization scheme away, so we can just pay for what we use like in the good old times. We can start with a law that applies to all social media systems that have more than 1M users.

That would be a nightmare. I would hate to pay for all the stuff I get for free now.
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