Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

Post by jefftk » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 11:35 AM UTC

NotTheDr01ds wrote: post #163

sfjailbird wrote: post #143

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Thanks for the summary but you're burying the lede - what the hell is a racist door bell?

It's a separate video on his channel which is probably a better listen than this one. This one is a bit of conjecture, perhaps true. The other has been validated by multiple sources, AFAICT. Short summary - Someone had tied in most of their home automation to Alexa and found their account cancelled suddenly one day. They went through the automated recovery systems and were told to contact support, which they did. Sup…

Post by stavros » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 11:36 AM UTC

TekMol wrote: post #37

chrischen wrote: post #19

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The 20 clicks it takes for an affiliate is out of the control of the advertiser, and is determined by the publisher and the source of traffic and the intent level of the traffic they are driving. Google, through their predictive models more or less is promising a certain CPA whereas a publisher may not have such guarantees. So obviously publishers need to be paid on performance instead. Affiliate advertisers still ha…

I don't think that the 20 times lower PPC on affiliate links vs Google Ads is due to market forces. From the numbers I see, Google Ads are paid roughly "correctly". The ad spent per new customer is somewhere around the lifetime value of the customer. At least in competitive verticals. But for affiliate links, it is about 20 times lower. Your argument that market forces should drive the affiliate market towards the sa…

Post by stavros » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 11:38 AM UTC

suddenclarity wrote: post #69

benj111 wrote: post #63

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Surely the solution is to pay per purchase, not per click. That's how cashback sites work. it would actually align everyone's interests in actually incentivising sales, not clicks.

I don't know about the international market but at least in my country, all companies abandoned PPC around 15 years ago. One reason was that you could pay Google AdSense $0.01 per click while being paid $0.1 per click yourself. It was a money printing machine while the company got worthless traffic that wouldn't generate any sales.

Post by TonyTrapp » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 11:40 AM UTC

hungryforcodes wrote: post #178

Sorry, I guess I am nieve. But what is a racist door bell?

Post by NohatCoder » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 11:41 AM UTC

CapsAdmin wrote: post #51

I can't believe I'm saying this, but isn't it normal for programs like these to just randomly terminate because some numbers somewhere aren't right? Maybe I don't understand the affiliate program, but throughout the video I keep thinking this is an accusation against accusation.