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Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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This isn't some personal drama. If true, this is serious cause for alarm If Amazon is really retaliating against people critisizing them in public like it's really really bad. Like he said, if Amazon came out publicly and said that we don't want to partner with people that have an adverserial relationship with us, that be bad but at least more straightforward. Punishing people like this indirectly is dangerous in so…

> Like he said, if Amazon came out publicly and said that we don't want to partner with people that have an adverserial relationship with us, that be bad but at least more straightforward. Why does it need to be said? Why would anyone want to partner with someone who has an adversarial relationship? Would you?

Only if the issues they raise are justified and the fault of my company, then I could consider fixing them and wouldn't kill the messenger

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

#102

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This isn't some personal drama. If true, this is serious cause for alarm If Amazon is really retaliating against people critisizing them in public like it's really really bad. Like he said, if Amazon came out publicly and said that we don't want to partner with people that have an adverserial relationship with us, that be bad but at least more straightforward. Punishing people like this indirectly is dangerous in so…

> Like he said, if Amazon came out publicly and said that we don't want to partner with people that have an adverserial relationship with us, that be bad but at least more straightforward. Why does it need to be said? Why would anyone want to partner with someone who has an adversarial relationship? Would you?

Amazon is large. One would hope that the two internal organizational units would have sufficient separation so as to allow normal operations to continue between affiliate-linking and life-ruining. And, come to think of it, door-unlocking.

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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It's not just Amazon. All big tech companies have this "trigger happy" approach to closing down accounts. Especially payment companies. I believe we need to pass down new consumer laws to protect the people. We pretty much rely on their services and they have no accountability.

> All big tech companies have this "trigger happy" approach to closing down accounts. After years, I made my first Instagram post last week. I got instantly banned (it was a picture of a new bag I bought). Apparently the way to get it back is to jump through some hoops and post a selfie with an OTP. I decided that’s a bit much work and I might as well let them delete my account that only follows a bunch of people I k…

I think the dormant accounts problem is legit though - I've lost count how many "dead" accounts I've seen on both my FB and IG feed, that have suddenly become hi-jacked, and start spamming stuff.

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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So Amazon wrongly accuses some random dude of racism after he says "Excuse me how can i help you" from their robotic doorbell, then bricks all of his amazon smarthome products remotely, then bans this man from their associates program for even making a video about it on youtube after 10 years. Are we living inside of the movie demolition man now? I absolutely hate large corporations. Racism off course is never ok, bu…

The Chinese point system is exactly what this reminds me of. It is ironic that unrestrained capitalism actually ends in a variant of communism where it are the corporations, rather than the party, that rule society.

There’s nothing ironic about it, much of cyberpunk is an exploration of the totalitarian nature of hypercorporatism.

It’s also not a variant of communism: first, in the Marxist-Leninist interpretation the purpose of the single party is expression of and progress towards the dictature of the proletariat, the single-party state is not communist (they claim socialism instead) and the ultimate goal is self-abolition (turns out all other issues aside it’s difficult to make such a system abolish itself).

Second, Libertarian Marxist as well as Trotskyists oppose the use of a transitional one-party state and “democratic centralism”.

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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> All big tech companies have this "trigger happy" approach to closing down accounts. After years, I made my first Instagram post last week. I got instantly banned (it was a picture of a new bag I bought). Apparently the way to get it back is to jump through some hoops and post a selfie with an OTP. I decided that’s a bit much work and I might as well let them delete my account that only follows a bunch of people I k…

I think the dormant accounts problem is legit though - I've lost count how many "dead" accounts I've seen on both my FB and IG feed, that have suddenly become hi-jacked, and start spamming stuff.

Yeah, but in that case it would not be a single picture. And apparently their detection system on the FB side is incapable of blocking new accounts that instantly start friending hundreds of completely unrelated people and posting porn, something that should be pretty easy to detect.

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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Or maybe don't rely on their services, use a kind of money that doesn't close accounts. Like cash, or something that must not be named on HN.

Because that’s not how society works

Worked for thousands of years, but perhaps now it is time to rely on the people bribed by big corporations?

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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Summary: The YouTuber had his Amazon affiliate account canceled after 7 years without warning or evidence of wrongdoing. The reason given was that purchases made through his links were for personal use or made by friends and family, which he denies. He finds the timing suspicious as it came a week after he made a video criticizing Amazon for canceling a customer's account for a racist doorbell claim. He argues that t…

>The reason given was that purchases made through his links were for personal use or made by friends and family, which he denies

He has 1.8 million subscribers and talks about gear. There's no way his affiliate purchases were done by "friends and family" in any significant number above 0.1% to even matter.

It's just Amazon payback BS.

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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Aren't we (almost) all working for billionaires ?

No. Even if you work for a Fortune 500 company (which 80% of the workforce doesn't), your CEO likely isn't a billionaire unless they also founded the company. The vast majority of these companies aren't lead by the only 770 billionaires in the US. Even making 15 million a year (typical Fortune 500 CEO total compensation), it would take a long time to hit a billion.

If you say Fortune 500 you also say Black Rock etc.

So billionaires.

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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No. Even if you work for a Fortune 500 company (which 80% of the workforce doesn't), your CEO likely isn't a billionaire unless they also founded the company. The vast majority of these companies aren't lead by the only 770 billionaires in the US. Even making 15 million a year (typical Fortune 500 CEO total compensation), it would take a long time to hit a billion.

You don't work for the CEO, you work for people owning the company, which means the share holders.

That's why I buy a share of any company I go to, so I'm a share holder, which means I'm working for myself.

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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So this depends on your definition of "working for": Are you working for the CEO or for the owner of the company?

It still not even close to the majority of Americans no matter your definition. The vast majority of the stock market isn't held by billionaires either. The total net worth of all US billionaires is ~5 trillion and the stock market is worth ~40 trillion. Even if you start counting anyone that works for a company even partially owned by a billionaire, about half of us employees work for small businesses: https://www.f…

You are still working for them, just not 100%
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