Whenever something like this happens it's worth looking at the entire scope, this is not as simple as Amazon banning the guy. You need to look at the steps that took place, someone had to actually make the call and have him banned. There was probably an email chain and this was the decision that they arrived to. Linking shitty things that happen to a person rather than some abstract corp gives the right perspective. Evil.
Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]
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#12For those who don't watch the video: This is about his affiliate account.
It is surprising, that there is so little competition for affiliates these days. Amazon seems to be almost the only game in town.
Sure, there are thousands of other affiliate programs. But they pay surprisingly little. Often affiliates earn only like $0.05 per click (on average). While the same company pays $1 per click on other channels like Google Ads.
I am not sure why, but I suspect that it is because companies are so afraid of getting scammed. They trust Google, but not individuals.
They pay $1 per click on Google Ads, need 20 clicks to acquire a new customer and are happy with a $20 price per customer because they know the lifetime value of a customer is higher.
But to affiliates, they pay 5% of the customers $20 order, so $1. Divided by 20 clicks, that is $0.05 per click.
So the affiliate channel is underpaid by a factor of 20.
Why is no company tackling this inefficiency in the market?
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#13Amazon needs a process before deleting accounts to check if the target has a big social media presence somewhere that it might create a backlash. Such accounts need to be handled differently.
I actually think triage systems like this are part of the problem. I know some social media management platforms offer this type of insights, so brands can be more responsive to people with large followings. But do they deserve better support than the rest of us?
I'm certain the comment was ironic, emphasizing that there's a real possibility, if not probability, that Amazon has done this exact childish vindicative behavior on others, but we'd never know about it for those individuals lack the ability to reach millions at the tap of a button.
It's also another warning about just blindly sacrificing your privacy or other interests to a massive corporation. Because that massive corporation, like any entity, is made up of lots of people - plenty of them just as petty and immature, as any other person.
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#14>I have a full-time job working for a billionaire Out of curiosity, as a very occasional viewer of his channel: what is it that he does in that role?
Basically, Right to Repair Lobbying, and giving grants to companies that align with that, as I understand.
Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]
#15Amazon needs a process before deleting accounts to check if the target has a big social media presence somewhere that it might create a backlash. Such accounts need to be handled differently.
They should have the same process for all accounts. The process just needs to be good.
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#16Amazon needs a process before deleting accounts to check if the target has a big social media presence somewhere that it might create a backlash. Such accounts need to be handled differently.
How much of a nuisance it really is if an American got cancelled by Amazon+Google?
Assuming any attempt to create an alt account will be thwarted by the process (name won't match credit cards or bank accounts, etc.), I can imagine a dystopian future ~20 years from now where such people will become absolute pariahs in the society. Especially if the current trend of smaller tech companies cow towing the lines of established big tech players continues.
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#17Whenever something like this happens it's worth looking at the entire scope, this is not as simple as Amazon banning the guy. You need to look at the steps that took place, someone had to actually make the call and have him banned. There was probably an email chain and this was the decision that they arrived to. Linking shitty things that happen to a person rather than some abstract corp gives the right perspective.…
The worst part is the decision was made without proof. As distasteful or offensive as it was alleged to be its still just words. Who cares.
Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]
#18Amazon needs a process before deleting accounts to check if the target has a big social media presence somewhere that it might create a backlash. Such accounts need to be handled differently.
I actually think triage systems like this are part of the problem. I know some social media management platforms offer this type of insights, so brands can be more responsive to people with large followings. But do they deserve better support than the rest of us?
> ...do they deserve better...?
Morally, probably no.
But humans are vastly more inclined to discrimination by caste / class / fame / etc. than they usually admit to, and failure to give special treatment to the "right" people will often generate a serious backlash. A CEO is responsible for his company's reputation and financial results - does he "deserve" his job if he ignores that unfortunate fact about the environment in which his business operates?
Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]
#19For those who don't watch the video: This is about his affiliate account. It is surprising, that there is so little competition for affiliates these days. Amazon seems to be almost the only game in town. Sure, there are thousands of other affiliate programs. But they pay surprisingly little. Often affiliates earn only like $0.05 per click (on average). While the same company pays $1 per click on other channels like G…
The 20 clicks it takes for an affiliate is out of the control of the advertiser, and is determined by the publisher and the source of traffic and the intent level of the traffic they are driving.
Google, through their predictive models more or less is promising a certain CPA whereas a publisher may not have such guarantees. So obviously publishers need to be paid on performance instead. Affiliate advertisers still have to compete since publishers have a choice of who to actually publish.
Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]
#20For those who don't watch the video: This is about his affiliate account. It is surprising, that there is so little competition for affiliates these days. Amazon seems to be almost the only game in town. Sure, there are thousands of other affiliate programs. But they pay surprisingly little. Often affiliates earn only like $0.05 per click (on average). While the same company pays $1 per click on other channels like G…
There's plenty of advertising networks.
How many internet retailers sell the breadth of stuff Amazon do?