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Re: Open source Diablo 1 engine – DevilutionX 1.5.0 released

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Post by nottorp » Sat, Jun 17, 2023, 9:55 PM UTC

Just for the record, i did a full playthrough including hellfire on mac with this last year. No problems.

Re: Open source Diablo 1 engine – DevilutionX 1.5.0 released

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Post by lufte » Sat, Jun 17, 2023, 10:00 PM UTC

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #6

Is there a list of all projects like this that are at a release stage? I would like to follow this scene.

https://osgameclones.com/

Re: Open source Diablo 1 engine – DevilutionX 1.5.0 released

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Post by mepian » Sat, Jun 17, 2023, 10:05 PM UTC

burke wrote: post #17

mordae wrote: post #10

Not open source. > DevilutionX is made publicly available and released under the Sustainable Use License (see LICENSE) > The source code in this repository is for non-commercial use only. If you use the source code you may not charge others for access to it or any derivative work thereof.

The source is open. “Open Source” does not mean the FLOSS-flavour of Open in conventional speech. If you want to fight that battle, sure, it’s not unreasonable, but realize that you’re pushing a sub-consensus view.

"Source-available" is already the established term for this kind of software, not sure what you are talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-available_software

Re: Open source Diablo 1 engine – DevilutionX 1.5.0 released

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Post by AJenbo » Sat, Jun 17, 2023, 10:12 PM UTC

splitbrain wrote: post #5

NamTaf wrote: post #2

On the wiki... > I shouldnt have write access to do this i'm just some random internet guy, maybe think about fixing the permissions here Whoops! https://github.com/diasurgical/devilutionX/wiki

Back in the day all wikis used to be open for editing, unfortunately spam and vandalism has made it rare. Anyway, as another random visitor, I simply reverted that change.

Thanks. The wiki is for community members to help each other.

Re: Open source Diablo 1 engine – DevilutionX 1.5.0 released

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Post by xorcist » Sat, Jun 17, 2023, 10:12 PM UTC

burke wrote: post #17

mordae wrote: post #10

Not open source. > DevilutionX is made publicly available and released under the Sustainable Use License (see LICENSE) > The source code in this repository is for non-commercial use only. If you use the source code you may not charge others for access to it or any derivative work thereof.

The source is open. “Open Source” does not mean the FLOSS-flavour of Open in conventional speech. If you want to fight that battle, sure, it’s not unreasonable, but realize that you’re pushing a sub-consensus view.

Consensus is very clear here and it's the opposite of what you suggest.

Check out wikipedia, or count google hits, or just talk to any computer geek who was alive in the 90s.

Re: Open source Diablo 1 engine – DevilutionX 1.5.0 released

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Post by AJenbo » Sat, Jun 17, 2023, 10:13 PM UTC

OoooooooO wrote: post #16

No screenshots on the GitHub page? :/

Try Google Play (or just plain Google) for more screen shots: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.diasurgica...

Re: Open source Diablo 1 engine – DevilutionX 1.5.0 released

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Post by ainiriand » Sat, Jun 17, 2023, 10:15 PM UTC

burke wrote: post #17

mordae wrote: post #10

Not open source. > DevilutionX is made publicly available and released under the Sustainable Use License (see LICENSE) > The source code in this repository is for non-commercial use only. If you use the source code you may not charge others for access to it or any derivative work thereof.

The source is open. “Open Source” does not mean the FLOSS-flavour of Open in conventional speech. If you want to fight that battle, sure, it’s not unreasonable, but realize that you’re pushing a sub-consensus view.

Then it would be fair to call Unreal Engine open source, which is not.

Re: Open source Diablo 1 engine – DevilutionX 1.5.0 released

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Post by fermentation » Sat, Jun 17, 2023, 10:17 PM UTC

Diablo 1 is my favorite Diablo game, but last time I tried this there were some weird changes (needing to use a town portal scroll in the butcher's room). Is that still the case?

Re: Open source Diablo 1 engine – DevilutionX 1.5.0 released

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Post by hotpotamus » Sat, Jun 17, 2023, 10:24 PM UTC

xorcist wrote: post #25

burke wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The source is open. “Open Source” does not mean the FLOSS-flavour of Open in conventional speech. If you want to fight that battle, sure, it’s not unreasonable, but realize that you’re pushing a sub-consensus view.

Consensus is very clear here and it's the opposite of what you suggest. Check out wikipedia, or count google hits, or just talk to any computer geek who was alive in the 90s.

This sounds like it's getting into a pedantry I wasn't aware of. If the source is available for me to look at and potentially mess around with, I'd consider it open source, but I assume it's the non-commercial aspect that makes it not "Open Source"?

That said, I'm very impressed with the reverse engineering work on this having played it before.

Re: Open source Diablo 1 engine – DevilutionX 1.5.0 released

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Post by john-shaffer » Sat, Jun 17, 2023, 10:28 PM UTC

iaaan wrote: post #15

AaronM wrote: post #3

There is also an open source Diablo 2 engine, however the project hasn't had any updates in 7 months https://github.com/AbyssEngine/OpenDiablo2

I actually worked on this for several months a few years ago. The project suffered from massive scope creep and overall disorganization. At one point, we could load the main menu and get in game, but then the project changed directions a few times and ultimately switched programming languages (from Go to C++ if memory serves) so most of that progress got wiped out. I didn't know the language they switched to, so me a…

Thanks. I had no idea D2 was on switch, and it's on sale for $13! [1]

[1] https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/diablo-ii-resurrecte...