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Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by pinkcan »

gumby wrote: post #75
mvdtnz wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respectfully this is obnoxious advice for the majority of home cooks. We just want to know what to cook and how.

It’s the opposite. There’s nothing wrong at all with “cook by numbers” and it’s especially great if you didn’t learn to cook as a child. It’s like learning at a coding boot camp where you learn to write some simple business logic based on a spec, or learning algebra in grade 8: basically syntactic transforms with no theory. But Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat will teach you to look in the fridge when you’re hungry but unmotiva…

1. that comment is not about you

2. don't tell people their perception of things is wrong, instead consider why they're perceiving things that way, and if you can, do something* that may change their perception

* here, you can't

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by noizejoy »

hamasho wrote: post #42
tester756 wrote: post #18

Despite all the hate Google and infinite scroll gets, it seems to be good decision doesn't it? You rarely go to even the second page, I'm almost always improving/changing the query instead of going to next pages, so even in those edge cases where I have to go to next pages, then auto loading next results when I'm at the bottom of the page seems viable solution Infinite scroll is annoying because e.g you cannot link t…

My biggest problem with infinite scrolling in general is it clears scrolling state by browser back or page refresh. Sometimes there's no good result in the first page, or I want to keep searching for more investigation. When I find a seemingly interesting result after several scrolls and visit the page but find out it's not what I want, I want to go back to the search result and continue. But after browser back, the…

I’ve taken to “open link in new tab” on any search result or listing page for years. It doesn’t solve all the issues, but makes things more tolerable.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by Spivak »

gumby wrote: post #75
mvdtnz wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respectfully this is obnoxious advice for the majority of home cooks. We just want to know what to cook and how.

It’s the opposite. There’s nothing wrong at all with “cook by numbers” and it’s especially great if you didn’t learn to cook as a child. It’s like learning at a coding boot camp where you learn to write some simple business logic based on a spec, or learning algebra in grade 8: basically syntactic transforms with no theory. But Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat will teach you to look in the fridge when you’re hungry but unmotiva…

In fact I would go further and say that this stuff is more fundamental. Online recipes make cooking look mysterious and complicated when they're actually "cook each ingredient in the obvious way, measure with your heart, combine the things that go together, and assemble the final dish." It's not "easy just re-derive the formula when you need it" like you see in maths, it's that most dishes you don't need a recipe at all.

Baking is the only thing that requires some science know-how but it has its own building blocks [1] that demystify overly complicated recipes.

There aren't that many "shapes" of dishes.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Ratio-Simple-Behind-Everyday-Cooking/...

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by vitro »

breadwinner wrote: post #77

They had to make this change because they increased the number of ads. If the result is paginated, a high percentage of links in the first page would be ads. With infinite scroll that's not a problem because there are an infinite number of links on "the first page". Overall, Google has turned up the number of ads. Not just in search, but also in YouTube and also in Gmail. In YouTube, you didn't have ads in low-view-c…

> number of ads ... also in Gmail

I wonder when they cut IMAP/POP3 access to Gmail.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by bushbaba »

breadwinner wrote: post #77

They had to make this change because they increased the number of ads. If the result is paginated, a high percentage of links in the first page would be ads. With infinite scroll that's not a problem because there are an infinite number of links on "the first page". Overall, Google has turned up the number of ads. Not just in search, but also in YouTube and also in Gmail. In YouTube, you didn't have ads in low-view-c…

Wall Street demands growth of top line or greater profitability. This is Google’s way of meeting shareholder demands. Yes short sighted. And yes opens the door for chatGPT

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

vram22 wrote: post #83
breadwinner wrote: post #77

They had to make this change because they increased the number of ads. If the result is paginated, a high percentage of links in the first page would be ads. With infinite scroll that's not a problem because there are an infinite number of links on "the first page". Overall, Google has turned up the number of ads. Not just in search, but also in YouTube and also in Gmail. In YouTube, you didn't have ads in low-view-c…

Nowadays while watching videos in YouTube, I get more occurrences of ads, even in short videos, compared to just a few days back. Very irritating. Started looking out for other options than YouTube.

They got me to pay for premium just to avoid ads. But I’m really struggling to justify paying for it, and its more likely that I’ll abandon the platform altogether.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

mvdtnz wrote: post #71
marak830 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an ex chef, escoffier as a basis, then salt fat acid heat by Samin nosrat. Recipes are a guide for unfamiliar, but once you learn the profiles of each ingredient you can expand greatly. I know it's a bit off your comments and I certainly search myself for new basis to play with, but I hope it helps :-)

Respectfully this is obnoxious advice for the majority of home cooks. We just want to know what to cook and how.

I used to think like that but then I expanded my skills during the pandemic. I now have a much better grasp of ingredients and spices and how they all interact with each other.

All it took was asking “why” a specific ingredient was used at a specific stage in the recipe. You get a lot of answers from that.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by pixl97 »

joker_minmax wrote: post #82
threads2 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We won a set of fancy cast iron pans and gpt explained to us what each of them are for. Way better experience than googling or reading wikipedia.

What made the experience better to you? I would feel compelled to Google search everything after the fact to make sure it wasn't lying to me.

> I would feel compelled to Google search everything after the fact to make sure it wasn't lying to me

https://gizmodo.com/googles-algorithm-is-lying-to-you-about-...

>I knew from personal experience that this was a lie. Recipes always said it took 5 or 10 minutes to caramelize onions, and when you followed the recipes, you either got slightly cooked onions or you ended up 40 minutes behind schedule. So I caramelized some onions and recorded how long it really took—28 minutes if you cooked them as hot as possible and constantly stirred them, 45 minutes if you were sane about it—and I published those results on Slate, along with a denunciation of the false five-to-10 minute standard.

Trusting Google is just as apt to get you in trouble.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

joker_minmax wrote: post #58
elzbardico wrote: post #38

Google pruned their index so radically that it doesn't make a difference anymore. For a bit less common stuff, but yet nothing esoteric, I get to the last page around page 4 or 5. And most of the stuff on those 5 pages are mostly SEO-farm copies of the same stuff. I quit looking for recipes on google. Bought a dozen of recipe books last year. fuck that shit.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed it's harder to find recipes from smaller sites anymore.

Try looking up medical queries, especially for anything more complex than a regular flu.

The first page is just the same few domains. Meanwhile, websites dedicated to the disease and often maintained by supportive communities languish at the bottom of the pile.

Why? Because Google decided that “authority” of domains is important, not the content. So a generic article on WebMD will rank higher than a forum page filled with mountains of information from actual patients and medical professionals.

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