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Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#81

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed it's harder to find recipes from smaller sites anymore.

I have been using openAI for this, its surprisingly accurate, and way faster for easy recipes and instructions.

I'd rather support those small time blogs, people who do it as a hobby and for the creative joy of it, especially for recipes you don't see a lot in the English-speaking world. Using a language model for a recipe feels soulless to me.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#82

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I have been using openAI for this, its surprisingly accurate, and way faster for easy recipes and instructions.

We won a set of fancy cast iron pans and gpt explained to us what each of them are for. Way better experience than googling or reading wikipedia.

What made the experience better to you? I would feel compelled to Google search everything after the fact to make sure it wasn't lying to me.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#83

They had to make this change because they increased the number of ads. If the result is paginated, a high percentage of links in the first page would be ads. With infinite scroll that's not a problem because there are an infinite number of links on "the first page". Overall, Google has turned up the number of ads. Not just in search, but also in YouTube and also in Gmail. In YouTube, you didn't have ads in low-view-c…

Nowadays while watching videos in YouTube, I get more occurrences of ads, even in short videos, compared to just a few days back. Very irritating. Started looking out for other options than YouTube.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#84

Infinite scrolling means infinite ads... :-D

I really think that they may now sprinkle good results between worse ones just to show more ads, and force you to scroll, and scroll, and read more ads. Why to provide good results immediately if it is not a good business decision? They need to balance good and bad results to not anger consumers too much and to get target revenue

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Despite all the hate Google and infinite scroll gets, it seems to be good decision doesn't it? You rarely go to even the second page, I'm almost always improving/changing the query instead of going to next pages, so even in those edge cases where I have to go to next pages, then auto loading next results when I'm at the bottom of the page seems viable solution Infinite scroll is annoying because e.g you cannot link t…

My biggest problem with infinite scrolling in general is it clears scrolling state by browser back or page refresh. Sometimes there's no good result in the first page, or I want to keep searching for more investigation. When I find a seemingly interesting result after several scrolls and visit the page but find out it's not what I want, I want to go back to the search result and continue. But after browser back, the…

> it clears scrolling state by browser back

Twitter handles this masterfully (or used to)

> or page refresh.

Technically you can use history.replaceState to store, ahem, state on the "current page", so nothing stops you from saving a cursor there to use when loading the content.

The issue with infinite scroll is that very few people know how or care to "make it work correctly"

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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post #68

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But this saves you a click so what do you dislike?

With distinct pages it's easy to bookmark them and/or remember "oh, there was something interesting on page three." With infinite scroll, that interesting thing becomes lost in a maze of twisty passages and more difficult to return to because you are never on an individual static page, but rather a single ever-changing page.

If you're going through a long list of unchanging results, like issues of a magazine sorted by date, and you want to save your place, then sure.

But Google results are ephemeral and change constantly. I've never heard of anyone wanting to bookmark the second page of search results.

I agree infinite scroll doesn't make sense on all sites, but for internet search results it's perfect.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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post #83

They had to make this change because they increased the number of ads. If the result is paginated, a high percentage of links in the first page would be ads. With infinite scroll that's not a problem because there are an infinite number of links on "the first page". Overall, Google has turned up the number of ads. Not just in search, but also in YouTube and also in Gmail. In YouTube, you didn't have ads in low-view-c…

Nowadays while watching videos in YouTube, I get more occurrences of ads, even in short videos, compared to just a few days back. Very irritating. Started looking out for other options than YouTube.

I often forget YouTube even has any ads, but then again I am using uBlock Origin.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#89

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We won a set of fancy cast iron pans and gpt explained to us what each of them are for. Way better experience than googling or reading wikipedia.

What made the experience better to you? I would feel compelled to Google search everything after the fact to make sure it wasn't lying to me.

For me at least, I sometimes find it very difficult to google information I don’t yet know a lot about. It is very difficult if you don’t know the jargon to find anything that goes beyond the very surface level. Or if you did find the correct word, it goes too fast and you are not able to follow. It can be difficult to find an article in the “goldilocks zone” where I can follow along but also learn a lot. I do not do this, but I can imagine that AI could help with that as a starting of point. Then I would probably still google to confirm.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#90

Google pruned their index so radically that it doesn't make a difference anymore. For a bit less common stuff, but yet nothing esoteric, I get to the last page around page 4 or 5. And most of the stuff on those 5 pages are mostly SEO-farm copies of the same stuff. I quit looking for recipes on google. Bought a dozen of recipe books last year. fuck that shit.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed it's harder to find recipes from smaller sites anymore.

YouTube is a great place to find recipes from individuals. They usually have the entire recipe in the description. And a video to go along with it!
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