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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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You mean 'controlling' reddit. Folks like this have had tastes of power before. If you think about it, knowing that Reddit is a feeder to ChatGPT, it could be a strategic move to try and make it so that all the AIs of the future default to 4chan mindset. Bold if true! Heck of a motivation. And Reddit as it stands is clearly not optimal for delivering this, but with enough dedicated mods power-modding the heck out of…

I would be only mildly surprised if some group of channers would plan that. Despite their toxicity, they are the most focused and determined group I have ever seen. So bad it is always for destructive purposes. They could have been great people.

4channers are remarkably resourceful and effective at times, if any group could manage such an ambitious task as poisoning all LLM AIs it would be them. I've heard it described as weaponized autism.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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I am willing to bet a lot of money that reddit is not losing users out of this, it is gaining

I'd accept that it's not losing a lot of users, but I can't imagine it's gaining any?

publicity

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Subreddits may be nearly infinite, but good, descriptive subreddit names are not. r/videos is going to get more natural traffic than r/ReallyCoolNewVideos, which is going to get more natural traffic than r/asdlkajflaksjf.

This is the same website where the "marijuana enthusiast" sub is for people who like trees, right?

Sure, but it's a reddit joke, because r/trees is devoted to marijuana(which exists because of a protest against bad mods on r/marijuana).

Probably non-reddit folk will be turned off by the name, and not get the joke. And I bet a lot of members of that sub only subscribed because they are inveterate redditors and not because they're interested in the subject.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…

For me it's been a blessing in disguise. Reddit was a time suck for me, and spending a week without it has broken the habit. I don't need it, and a lot of it is honestly pretty toxic.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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The richest part here is where spez refers to moderators as a "landed gentry": https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-protest-blacko... “And I think, on Reddit, the analogy is closer to the landed gentry: The people who get there first get to stay there and pass it down to their descendants, and that is not democratic.” What does that make spez relative to the constituents in his community?

There's a first time for everything. I agree with spez. That is a very on point description of Mods, and it needs to be fixed. Just because you came first to /r/news doesn't mean you should rule like a king on Reddit. It is too open for abuse and politics.

Your argument belies reality, where moderators even on the very large subreddits turn over all of the time.

The oldest moderator on r/news has only been in their position for slightly more than 3 years: https://www.reddit.com/r/news/about/moderators

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…

Im not a fan of how reddit is handling the situation, but: > To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Is just not true at all unless you have actual stats to back that up. A ton of people disagree with that take. The site has grown a massive amount since the new design was released in 2018. S…

Stats? Come on. Reddit pesters every mobile user agent to install their shitty app every time. It's like Google pushing Chrome. How many people install their malware just to stop getting nagged about it? People even say they made reddit web bad on purpose to drive people to the app.

Show those users better third party apps with no ads and then ask them which they like more.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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If this wasn't connected to the blackout, this would be great news. There are a few mods, who when reddit was young, decided to squat every existing country's subreddit, along with common words. Those subs now work well with active mods below them. But the squatter still has full power, and can override any other mod. Now it will hopefully be easier to kick those mods.

Yep. Given that this is HN, try looking at /r/California. It's basically a person fief for a single user (granted, he's not nearly as obnoxious as many Reddit mods.) Yet simply because this user owns the obvious name, there is no real alternate sub for California-level news.

> Yet simply because this user owns the obvious name, there is no real alternate sub for California-level news.

Alternatively, the users aren't bothered by the moderation there and no one's felt the need to start an alternative.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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lol. you're not that old. remember the days when Intel was kicking AMD's ass and AMD was mostly building a worse Intel clone? Raise your hand if any of the following say anything to you: K5, K6, Duron. If you raised your hand and can go back even further in time tell me at what frequency did a Z80 run. hahahahaah

i still have k6-233 with shuttle hot-603 motherboard.

What else do you got in that museum? :)

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…

its the death of reddit, just like digg before it. And google circles or whatever it was called its been so long. and myspace and friendster and orkut and aol and msn and Usenet and Dubsmash and vine and literally more sites than Wikipedia fits on one page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Defunct_social_netw...

This is more like the death of Twitter - highly exaggerated and no alternatives. Nothing changes.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#780

This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…

It was the same with Digg and Slashdot.

Unless there's an realistic alternative to Reddit that users are actually moving to - then no it's not.
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