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If it were my decision the pool of serious contenders would not be 100,000 and spez would not be anywhere near among them.
So you rounded up to 100k. Gotcha. Cool. Cool.
Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private
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Nah, the winners will be the paid shills that will take over more subreddits of the idealists. Some of them probably participated in the 3 days or whatever it was of blackout so they look good to the rest of the users, but they're ultimately getting paid by PR corporations and they'll be ready with alts that will take over subreddits that go permanently private.
How do we know that the current mods aren't paid shills also? This blackout would make a lot more sense if that were the case. They have to protect their bottom line, and the changes that reddit is enacting threatens their ability to operate.
Half of them are, that's what I'm saying.
(And I really doubt that the professional mods won't find solutions to stay in business -- and they'll probably be happy with a certain amount of "regulatory capture" making it more difficult to be a mod if you're not able to pay a hundred bucks a month or so for tooling to make it easier -- they can just pass those costs of doing business on)
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The threshold for free API usage for modding tools is being increased from 60 to 100 queries per minute https://mods.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/16693988535309 There are a very small minority that exceed that even now apparently. Seems not unreasonable to me.
Why is this downvoted? According to the linked article, even the bots which exceed the usage were manually whitelisted to stay free.
They made their intentions clear with the pricing change, they want third party apps dead. Why carry on making or supporting them with the shadow of the noose falling on you?
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#364This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…
Im not a fan of how reddit is handling the situation, but: > To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Is just not true at all unless you have actual stats to back that up. A ton of people disagree with that take. The site has grown a massive amount since the new design was released in 2018. S…
It would be pretty hard to do a fair comparison between the users of the Reddit app and Apollo.
Accessing reddit.com on a mobile will bombard you with pop ups to get you to access through the official app, while Apollo would only be found via word of mouth or actively seeking an alternative.
Review score average might be a better, where they're pretty on par in that regard, but again hard to tell if that's an indication of each app or a review of the content served by reddit itself.
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They are done, 100%, this is the turning point and it's all downhill from here. They depend fundamentally on volunteer labor and every decision they've made since announcing the API change has alienated that labor. The morale of every mod I know is in the tank. The solution for this was incredibly simple. Reddit you want to charge for the API? Go right ahead, we all want you to make money. But when the volunteer labo…
The threshold for free API usage for modding tools is being increased from 60 to 100 queries per minute https://mods.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/16693988535309 There are a very small minority that exceed that even now apparently. Seems not unreasonable to me.
The threshold is being increased from 60 to 100 for bots which didn't delegate auth, but not for any tools that used specific user-ids. It's misleading.
To quote from reddit's docs: https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/16160319875...
> Important note: Historically, our rate limit response headers indicated counts by client id/user id combination. These headers will update to reflect this new policy based on client id only on July 1, 2023.
Historically, reddit rate limited by user-id, so if for example, both of us logged in using a reddit app, each of us had a rate limit of 60/min free queries. Each app only gets one client-id, regardless of the number of users it has.
Now, the rate limit of 100 is per app, not per user-id, which obviously doesn't work for any tooling that acts on behalf of the user.
Reddit can only make those claims by ignoring "moderator tool" which used user-ids. In a very real sense, reddit apps like "reddit is fun" and "apollo" were moderator tools, and those are the biggest losers in this change.
You can see someone on reddit complaining about this too: https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_...
I'm not saying that what they're saying is necessarily wrong, but their communication around these changes makes it hard to take them in good faith.
Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private
#366Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…
Any good alternative? I like hacker news for now that it still got some comments worth reading and interesting articles
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It's often struck me as odd how some moderators can be modding 50+ sometimes even high as 100+ subreddits. Why so many? I doubt they can be reasonably expected to moderate all of them. Shouldn't there be a limit?
I moderated a few decently popular subreddits for a while (a couple hundred posts a day, nothing crazy). I will say that most moderation work on Reddit can be done independently of a particular sub and scales okay across subreddits. Like the additional effort of moderating 100 subreddits vs 1 would be nowhere near 100x. It would probably be closer to like 5x the amount of work. And there are benefits to moderating ma…
Thank you for writing these interesting insights. However, I wonder what was your motivation to do moderation and what made you stop?
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The analogy for landed gentry is accurate. Land is finite and subreddits are not. You can fork off and make your own subreddit whenever you like If subreddit mods are landed gentry, then so are open source maintainers.
This seems like a broken analogy. Of course you can make an infinite amount of subs, but with 0 users they would be pointless.
Badly moderated subreddits get replaced all the time by better moderated ones. The system is inherently meritocratic: if you abuse your modding power then your community is going leave and go somewhere else.
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The current de-federation stuff is already bringing out extreme toxicity and personal attacks.
Why is this bad? Isn't it represantitive of real life? There's no such thing as a safe space, only a strong mind.
In real life, people who harass or assault get sued or otherwise. We have built spaces for XYZ set of people for thousands of years. If you can't behave with some civility, go live in the forest and away from society.
There's a lot of irony in expressing what you did in one of the most heavily moderated forums.
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#370This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…
its the death of reddit, just like digg before it. And google circles or whatever it was called its been so long. and myspace and friendster and orkut and aol and msn and Usenet and Dubsmash and vine and literally more sites than Wikipedia fits on one page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Defunct_social_netw...
Funny i was part of not one of these. B/c every one of these were full of social media zombie sheeple along with gamers, dorks, geeks and techies. Decent, fun people you find IRL. Not arguing / chatting online.