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Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Previous thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36347711 554 point, 5 hours ago, 518 comments => not on the front page. No, it's not the algorithm.

It was on the front page earlier this evening, that's how I found it. It probably just got pushed off because any article about Reddit right now devolves into arguing about what mods should do, why it's futile because of how Reddit will react, etc.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any good alternative? I like hacker news for now that it still got some comments worth reading and interesting articles

Lemmy is still significantly lower user count but honestly I prefer the community at the moment. Everything feels small and jovial. At least for the 12 comments I've posted thus far. I'm running my own, which makes it easy to federate out to pretty much anything and worry less about overload as I'm not really pushing for users. Thus far, it's definitely felt like a very viable replacement for reddit for the communiti…

The current de-federation stuff is already bringing out extreme toxicity and personal attacks.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

If they remove old reddit, I'm done. The "new" reddit UI is literally one of my least favorite things in the world. Filled with clutter and ads, requires too many clicks to see what you want to see, low information density... I could go on.

New reddit is the worst. Who even designed it? Every time I accidentally find myself on new reddit UI, I feel like I'm looking through foggy glasses. Over the course of about 20 seconds, I blindly click around, feeling lost and confused, then frustrated, and then I just add "old" to the URL.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…

It's not even about not just "liking" them, like if it's only about resistance to changes.

My way of browsing reddit on desktop is to scroll and open lots of stuff I find interesting in tabs. With new reddit this is "holding it wrong" I guess, because that amount of tabs absolutely destroy the performance of my browser. Scroll is janky etc. And multiple subreddits have features and stuff that never got ported to new reddit, making new reddit a subpar experience as well.

As for the app, I just can't figure out what to press. I want a list of posts, and pressing them to take me to the comments. It keeps injecting other stuff everywhere, though. Avatars, coins, huge ads, lots of posts from other communities I don't want to see in my list, defeats the purpose of following a subreddit. I have to use the app once in a while to post content as other apps aren't allowed to upload videoes etc, and it's a confusing experience every time.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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It’s been a long time since I payed attention to Reddit drama, but isnt Reddit dominated by maybe a dozen or so power mods that have an enormous amount of influence in what goes on on that site?

No, and hasn’t been close to as you describe in a long time. Reddit made these people give up some of the subreddits that were on the old defaults list. The truth is that this generation of Reddit user is long gone; see /u/qgyh2 or /u/ManWithoutModem.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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If you don't pay for it, it's not your community. Again and again people think they get something for free, which they don't. If it's free you're a volunteer for the company, if you pay you're a customer.

What kind of communities are you a part of that you pay for? All the best ones that I can think of have never involved money moving around at all--participation makes a community, not money.

metafilter does that. It limits the user-base to those who have command of a bank-account or credit-card and imposes a friction on new account creation by gating it with a one-time $5 fee. They never aspired to be huge but I think they're doing fine.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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This whole scuffle is reddit leadership fighting against the 1% Mods that moderate 99% of the subreddits. Everyone else is just a pawn. The mods are just jealous that reddit is gonna be making a lot of money and want a cut. Even though this looks like reddit vs the community, this is actually reddit vs the Mod 1%.

Nah, the winners will be the paid shills that will take over more subreddits of the idealists. Some of them probably participated in the 3 days or whatever it was of blackout so they look good to the rest of the users, but they're ultimately getting paid by PR corporations and they'll be ready with alts that will take over subreddits that go permanently private.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#189
Why did reddit choose to charge app developers (causing financial uncertainty) for API requests instead of charging the end-users?

By purchasing my own usage and loading an API key into Apollo, I could continue to pay Apollo for the app alone like today, and pay Reddit separately for the API access. At least this way, I could decide if I’m happy with the price for API access.

I can only assume Reddit deliberately wanted to ruin the business model for third party apps.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

Any good alternative? I like hacker news for now that it still got some comments worth reading and interesting articles

It's going to sound dumb, but honestly? I filled an rss reader up with some of the best sources I could think of, and am actually really enjoying just quietly taking the world in again, instead of trying to come up with my latest snarky Reddit-friendly quip.
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