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Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by KerrAvon »

dehrmann wrote: post #229
rjvir wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spez is CEO because the board and investors deem him to be the best person for the job. Of course, he founded Reddit, so he has a strong case on merit for why he is the #1 person on the planet to run the company. The process for selecting moderators is way less meritocratic or democratic than this. They merely got there first, finders keepers. The analogy for landed gentry is accurate.

He's the CEO because he was the best person to take over after Ellen Pao resigned. He's the CEO today less because he's the right person, and more because the metrics were moving in the right direction and inertia. He might still be the best person for the job, but it isn't something the board actively reconsiders unless they have a reason to.

If I were on the board, I’d be engaged in discussion with my fellow board members right now about whether spez is demonstrating the temperament befitting a good CEO.

Even if you think the shit coming out of his mouth to be the right attitude, you have to ask why he’s saying it out loud, abrasively, in public, where it’s only going to make the product less attractive.

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Post by rpbiwer2 »

unclekev wrote: post #108
aeorgnoieang wrote: post #78

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I'm kinda curious why none of the third party app developers considered selling Reddit requests as in-app purchases – just charge the rate Reddit charges.

Some of them are trying to figure something out. https://www.reddit.com/r/RelayForReddit/comments/147152b/upd... > There's no possibility to continue the free version of Relay; a monthly subscription price of $3 (or less) might be achievable. And of that $3 the Developer says in that thread: > Yes there should be a good amount in there for myself. If 3rd party apps are so beloved, then $3/month to support a developer…

Honestly $3 isn't bad, I'd gladly pay that to continue using my Reddit app.

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Post by bluedemon »

cryptoegorophy wrote: post #152
spazx wrote: post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

Any good alternative? I like hacker news for now that it still got some comments worth reading and interesting articles

There's https://squabbles.io

It's not federated, but the UI is okay for now than the other alternatives that I've seen. It's ran by 1 dev who has quickly been adding features and listening to user feedback. It's also nearing 16,000 users and a few users are developing some mobile apps for it.

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Post by sofixa »

cjs_ac wrote: post #154
Accujack wrote: post #105

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>The fact that Reddit chose to take this course of action tells me that they don’t actually know that much about their own website. That might also explain why they never built out the tooling to begin with. It's seemed like that for years. They've had strong reasons to develop the site for years. The two main things they've done are build an app for phones and spend a relatively long time creating a "new" UI that ch…

The visual design of the interface selects different segments humanity for the user base. That's why HN looks like this. A more 'friendly' UI attracts people who don't have much of note to say, will consume what they're given, and respond to ads more.

> A more 'friendly' UI attracts people who don't have much of note to say, will consume what they're given, and respond to ads more.

That's a weird sort of elitism. Friendly UIs attract everyone, isn't that what a friendly UI means?

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Post by malermeister »

rjvir wrote: post #146
mlyle wrote: post #60

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The richest part here is where spez refers to moderators as a "landed gentry": https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-protest-blacko... “And I think, on Reddit, the analogy is closer to the landed gentry: The people who get there first get to stay there and pass it down to their descendants, and that is not democratic.” What does that make spez relative to the constituents in his community?

Spez is CEO because the board and investors deem him to be the best person for the job. Of course, he founded Reddit, so he has a strong case on merit for why he is the #1 person on the planet to run the company. The process for selecting moderators is way less meritocratic or democratic than this. They merely got there first, finders keepers. The analogy for landed gentry is accurate.

The board and the investors are not the community though. The community is reddit users, which didn't get to democratically pick him at all.

He's there because rich folks, e.g. actual landed gentry decided he should be, not because the users chose him to lead.

This is democratic in the same way the prince electors system of the HRE was, ie not at all.

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Post by wpietri »

mozman wrote: post #201
Semaphor wrote: post #182

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The current de-federation stuff is already bringing out extreme toxicity and personal attacks.

Why is this bad? Isn't it represantitive of real life? There's no such thing as a safe space, only a strong mind.

Ah yes. There's no such thing as a safe party, which is why I always wear my stab vest and helmet to my mom's Thanksgiving dinner.

You might want to look up this thing called "civilization", where we've been creating safe spaces for the last 5,000 years. Maybe it's just a passing fad, but I'm hopeful for it.

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Post by tayo42 »

redmerchant2 wrote: post #162
Loveaway wrote: post #128

This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…

They don’t care about the old guard of mostly geeks and techies. With Covid and moments of Twitter/tumblr exodus, Reddit has picked up a ton of users that just want generic social media. It’s basically just a global slightly more news text-centric TikTok feed. Serving up slop that’s just tasty enough to keep you hooked.

Maybe I'm imagining things but i feel like the content on reddit is very regular, average and safe lately. Like you can't be werid in the comments.

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Post by rTX5CMRXIfFG »

I personally can’t take HN seriously on the topic of reddit because the site loves capitalism, and yet it’s now opposing exactly what a good capitalist would do to boost its own profits and eliminate the competition. What a reactionary echo chamber full of inexpert takes this site has become.
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