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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by [deleted] »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #236
moskie wrote: post #76

We (the internet community) made such a terrible mistake with social media. We formed connections and communities and friendships on sites like Facebook and Twitter and Reddit, but those companies need to make money, so those connections are only allowed to exist as long as they are part of a profitable system. How awful it is to reduce human connection to that. To think that I am only allowed to maintain certain soc…

This is why I think federated alternatives like Lemmy are important and I would like to see communities migrate there instead of some other corporate walled garden. Otherwise we'll just be having the exact same discussion about some other website in five years. It pains me to see even a lot of FOSS-focused communities move their discussions to Discord, for example. Most of the criticisms of the federated platforms ce…

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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by postalrat »

Havoc wrote: post #135
CincinnatiMan wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are likely hundreds if not thousands of users who would be willing to become mods of each of the subreddits that are still in private mode. I know I would mod some of the subs I find useful.

They can sure try. Getting a mod team that gels well and keeps the community functional is non trivial though in my experience especially for tricky subs like politics Dropping a couple randoms in is at best a roll of the dice I personally wouldn’t want that roll across a large number of subs if I were ceo but I’m not so maybe we’ll get to see how that plays out

If creating an echo chamber is what your mean by "gel well" then they are doing a great job.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by gretch »

itake wrote: post #287
harryf wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What gives me hope is if you ever take a break from social media you realize how worthless it all is. It really doesn’t hurt to disengage. For similar reasons it’s possible for new networks to show up which disrupt the old, such as TikTok. The point is as individuals we are way less dependent on social media than we imagine.

I've been on the struggle bus quitting reddit for 5+ years. Even with this new level of energy to quit, I'm still on it for ~20 min per day.

Have you tried replacing it with something else?

I dramatically reduced my social media time a couple years ago by getting some casual games on my phone. Current favorites are NYT crosswords and solitaire.

Some innocuous mental stimulation to pass time that doesn’t come with the toxicity that social media can.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by BaseballPhysics »

stOneskull wrote: post #325
s-zeng wrote: post #47

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Collectively, Lemmy and kbin instances (which federate with each other) just reached over 125k users or so. I've really enjoyed my time there so far.

does federate with each other mean you have one account and can log in into lemmy and kbin with that one account? or is it you can use lemmy with a kbin account and vice versa?

You log in to your home instance (kbin or Lemmy, doesn't matter which) and you can follow and participate in communities hosted on other servers, which can be kbin or Lemmy, doesn't matter which, because they support a common protocol (ActivityPub).

In fact, you can even interact with communities hosted on a Lemmy instance from a Mastodon instance, or Misskey. Heck, probably Pixelfed, though I haven't checked. Such is the beauty of the fediverse and protocols over platforms.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by kirso »

RheingoldRiver wrote: post #235
harryf wrote: post #139

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What gives me hope is if you ever take a break from social media you realize how worthless it all is. It really doesn’t hurt to disengage. For similar reasons it’s possible for new networks to show up which disrupt the old, such as TikTok. The point is as individuals we are way less dependent on social media than we imagine.

I disagree. If you find the right communities, you really make close friendships with people - even if you don't know their real names, how old they are, where they work, or where they live. None of that matters, because you share and connect over a common interest. And you could never find so many people IRL with similar interests as you. If this isn't how you're using reddit, discord, etc, and it's easy to disconne…

Problem is an average consumer uses reddit for memes and buying recommendations.

The magic however is indeed as you pointed out discussing various topics: - Gear in baldurs gate - How to create a hardware clone of R2D2 - Books that you couldn't put down - What is the best present I can give to my friend - Summary of Hubermans protocols - Etc.

thats the beauty of it and I would miss it.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by dTal »

gretch wrote: post #366
rtpg wrote: post #217

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I mean I get that for absent-minded browsing but even just...having a hobby and talking about it with people feels pretty much like Normal Person Behavior(TM) and Reddit's subreddits worked well for that in the same way that forums in the past did. Not the end of the world but as a kid who only could find other people to talk about certain hobbies with online up until college sounds like a lot of pepole will be more…

We’ve only had this communication capability for the last .01% of human existence. Even 150 years ago, if you wanted to communicate with anyone outside your town, you had to pay a horse based courier what was most likely a very expensive fee. Not to mention the millions of years before that. Did all these previous generations find less satisfaction in life? Well who knows but I argue not. We don’t have to structure o…

>Even 150 years ago, if you wanted to communicate with anyone outside your town, you had to pay a horse based courier what was most likely a very expensive fee.

Last month was the 150th anniversary of the introduction of the first government "postal card", in New York City. They cost a penny each and sold 200,000 in two and a half hours.

https://postalmuseum.si.edu/exhibition/america%E2%80%99s-mai...

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by monksy »

ahahahahah wrote: post #208
monksy wrote: post #37

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> A subreddit, is not 'owned' or property of a moderator. That is exactly how reddit works. Reddit does not compensate the mods.. this is a minor compensation that they get to maintain their fiefdom. Don't like it, create a new sub.

That's just not true. This is not how reddit works. There are other rules in place that make it clear that mods don't own the subreddits that they mod. They are stewards of that community, but when they try to sabotage that community they can and should be removed.

Historically speaking, it has been incredibly rare for subs to be taken over like that. Subs have run with rules about banning members with at least 1 comment in subs they don't like (usually the_donald, mra, conservative, etc) [banning over non-sub behavior is a big no no for a long time with the admins], there are subs that aggressively automod, there are subs that ban over constructive criticism, there are subs where active mods are pushed out at any moment by a top mod, etc. Heck, there are a few subs that require photo evidence of your race or gender to participate.

Unless it highly embarrassed the company or it is an ongoing violation of their content policy, mostly those communities still remain as they are.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by basch »

concinds wrote: post #74

The dishonesty continues. > if they are no longer interested in moderating that community They're still interested. They're just protesting your policies. > [if] at least one mod [...] wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team. This one takes the cake. They're dangling a carrot: hey, any low-ranked mod interested in taking over…

[I stand corrected, redacting the rest of the comment]

In a small defense of Reddit:

If subs are private, they are still accessible to subscribers. If the moderators don’t moderate the really bad stuff, Reddit has historically replaced them. I would think the same applies here.

It’s hard to argue that people who are not subscribed to a sub are community members. People had plenty of warning to join subs before they went private. Going private alone shouldn’t lead to mod replacement.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by itsthecourier »

Just accept we need to see ads to pay for the bills or get a premium subscription. Personally I find unethical to use a freemium service and block the ads. Because how am I reciprocating the service they gave me?

Using a client different than reddit's official should be allowed upon the agreement to make reddit win something else back, e.g. subscription

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by SanjayMehta »

kccqzy wrote: post #309
harryf wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What gives me hope is if you ever take a break from social media you realize how worthless it all is. It really doesn’t hurt to disengage. For similar reasons it’s possible for new networks to show up which disrupt the old, such as TikTok. The point is as individuals we are way less dependent on social media than we imagine.

I don't consider Reddit in the same league as other social media sites. I consider it a centralized collection of forums. I hardly use my Reddit account, but I have obtained tremendous amount of useful information by searching for a topic and landing on a useful Reddit post or comment.

This was the only use I had for reddit - usually some hardware specific issue.

Now I find reddit rarely shows up in DDG results. Searching directly on reddit is futile. Posting queries is also futile as many mods have implemented features to limit infrequent posters.

It's been an old boys' club since EKP left.

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