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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by drakz »

Havoc wrote: post #168
jqpabc123 wrote: post #14

Brave --- the easy way to fix this and lots of other privacy related issues affecting the most popular web browsers. As this article shows, you can fiddle with Edge and other browsers to try and make them more privacy respecting --- but why bother trying to hit a constantly moving target? Clearly, your privacy is not in their best interests and they will only continue to circumvent it.

Brave is literally an ad funded company that made a pinky promise to only do good ad stuff. Boggles my mind that people view them as the solution to privacy

Same with Mozilla who is being funded by Google's ads money. Whats your point?

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by account42 »

jodrellblank wrote: post #218
Melting_Harps wrote: post #73

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> Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. Today? Where were you when it's 'free' OS' was 'phoning home' or during it's behemoth days in the 90s-2000s when it forced the most pro-business Government (US) to essentially break it up when it was using it's monoploitic practices too far for even them? I have to use Teams and just logically assume all of what was said or talked about exists on some server somewhere…

> is that M$ https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/07/22/m 21 years ago: " It is difficult enough already to engage Gabriel in a discussion of security or Digital Rights Management, and spelling Microsoft M-dollar sign is probably the best way I can think of to get your mail deleted. He might even have a rule that does it now, I haven't asked. When Ross Anderson penned his now famous Palladium FAQ, which reads some…

People can come up with whatever reasons to ignore others that they want. That doesn't make those reasons reasonable, it just makes those people ignorant.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by account42 »

oynqr wrote: post #410
adhvaryu wrote: post #316

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Wow, I can't believe they shipped the product knowing this could happen and thought that putting 2 warnings in the software guidebook (who reads that?) would suffice. Maybe they only added that in to avoid getting sued. Also, reading the timeline was great. > March 2015 The German Federal Office for Safety in Information Technology bans JBIG2 from being used for archival purposes. Wonder if any other governments took…

I hope they didn't ban lossless JBIG2.

Wouldn't be an unreasonable thing to do to prevent accidental use of lossy JBIG2. There are better lossless compression formats anyway.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by account42 »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #266
crazygringo wrote: post #4

This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…

> This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default. But it's really not the issue here. They invented "super resolution" just as they could have used "ultra denoiser" or "elite acne spot remover" or whatever other bullshit term they think they could use to get away with to "explain" why they're sniffing pictures. The goal is to send the images to Microsoft and no…

All of these other "enhancements" would be just as unreasonable to apply to web images by default even if done entirely locally. Both the exfiltration and the non-standard rendering are issues here.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by account42 »

hospitalJail wrote: post #255
bombcar wrote: post #232

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Oh, definitely. Anyone in the medical field who says they've never gossiped about people's health issues is either a saint or bending the truth a bit. But that's vastly different (though perhaps more invasive) than massive breaches like these: https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/cybersecurity-hacking-he...

On the bright side, at least you know if you are affected! When an employee snoops, you will never know.

You only know for the breaches that are a) detected and b) not shoved under the rug.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by account42 »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #411
Melting_Harps wrote: post #98

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> Sending medical images to Microsoft seems like a major HIPAA violation. Without sounding to condescending: Bro... this entire Industry still relies on using fax or snailmail for records. Using slow, leaky, non-private/seure channels for sensitive information is not as much of a concern to this field than one thinks if you've been in the belly of the beast. Ask anyone who has spent anytime doing IT work at a hospita…

Fax is still a magical thing in healthcare specifically because of how easy it is to use under HIPAA. HIPAA has all of these crazy rules for anything digital, but the second you switch to good ol’ telephony the rules all become “there’s no rule because hacking a telephony system would be a federal crime.” I’m not joking. Telephony is considered a “mere conduit” while the internet is not. It really is stupid. HIPAA ha…

It would be great if the US also considered internet to be a mere conduit and went after those messing with it. The we wouldn't need to break backwards compat for entirely static public content and waster energy in forcing everything under TLS.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by account42 »

hot_gril wrote: post #176
star-glider wrote: post #135

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Correct: with the latest images, W11 will not under any circumstances allow you to avoid creating an MS account. It will insist you go online and halt the installer until you do. Rufus ( https://rufus.ie/en/ ) offers an option to revert fix this, but you still have to ensure that you keep wifi disconnected and ethernet unplugged during install.

> Correct: with the latest images, W11 will not under any circumstances allow you to avoid creating an MS account. It will insist you go online and halt the installer until you do. Huh. Aside from the ethics, this creates a chicken-and-egg problem for anyone who needs a PC to set up their home internet.

Most people would just get a pre-configured router from their ISP that you can just plug in.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by account42 »

pjmlp wrote: post #42
janoc wrote: post #41

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I didn't know that Windows is now free.

Edge is cross platform.

That's a technicality - who in their right mind is going to choose edge on other platform if they are not already used to it from Windows.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by account42 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #61
_-____-_ wrote: post #36

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Firefox with uBlock Origin and various about:config flags disabling telemetry, autocomplete, etc.

You're putting a lot of faith in uBlock Origin though. You have to grant it full permissions when you install it. Not at all saying that uBlock Origin is doing anything nefarious, but it certainly could .

I have more faith in gorhill behaving ethically than either of Mozilla, Google, Microsof or Apple, yes.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by account42 »

causi wrote: post #60
gaze wrote: post #35

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Unfortunately brave is forever cemented in my mind as being linked to the brave shitcoin.

Is the Brave shitcoin really worse than all the stupid-ass stunts and services Mozilla has pulled over the years?

"But that other guy is just as bad" is never a good argument.
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