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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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That's nothing. This is on by default: "Allow Microsoft to save your browsing activity including history, usage, favorites, web content, and other browsing data to personalize Microsoft Edge and Microsoft services like ads, search, shopping and news."

If you are not paying for your browser with your wallet, somebody else is paying for you. It has all sorts of implications.

I didn't know that Windows is now free.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are not paying for your browser with your wallet, somebody else is paying for you. It has all sorts of implications.

I didn't know that Windows is now free.

It's free if you're willing to break the EULA. I haven't paid for it. Just used some Win 7 CD key I found online and it activated.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

#44

Just imagine if Google was doing something like this; I bet the HN servers would melt down from the outrage! MS often gets a pass in these areas because people think of it as the "underdog", when in reality, MSFT is the biggest software company out there.

In 2023 what does biggest mean? Biggest in terms of programmer headcount? In terms of market share (which markets)? In terms of revenue? In terms of # of products? In terms of total users? Just curious what the qualifiers are.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

#45

This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…

Sending medical images to Microsoft seems like a major HIPAA violation.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

#46
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Just imagine if Google was doing something like this; I bet the HN servers would melt down from the outrage! MS often gets a pass in these areas because people think of it as the "underdog", when in reality, MSFT is the biggest software company out there.

Yup, pretty common theme on this and other online communities. If Apple does something – this is obviously the correct thing to do, and everyone should copy them. If Microsoft does the same thing – meh, no one cares. If Google or Meta does the same thing – pitchforks, outrage, a thousand daily top-voted blog posts detailing how terrible these companies are. Goes to show how much of the current outrage culture is driv…

this is such superficial analysis.

People use to hate Microsoft because it was a monopoly. Apple was the underdog. Ultimately the MS hate was the perfect case of watch what you wish for.

Because both companies back then were actually selling stuff to users.

Then came the culture of "do not evil" and "move fast and break things". Users became product, the only clients are the advertisers. Technology was not sold, it was simply provided for "free".

This undercut the old MS monopoly which survived because of its corporate stranglehold. Apple flourished through devices and could afford to take the moral high ground on privacy.

But the political and regulatory normalization and extreme profitability of surveillance capitalism means that there is no technology company today that can afford not to be an adtech company.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

#47

Just imagine if Google was doing something like this; I bet the HN servers would melt down from the outrage! MS often gets a pass in these areas because people think of it as the "underdog", when in reality, MSFT is the biggest software company out there.

In 2023 what does biggest mean? Biggest in terms of programmer headcount? In terms of market share (which markets)? In terms of revenue? In terms of # of products? In terms of total users? Just curious what the qualifiers are.

Market cap. They’ve the most money and enjoy highest PE ratio

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

#48

Brave --- the easy way to fix this and lots of other privacy related issues affecting the most popular web browsers. As this article shows, you can fiddle with Edge and other browsers to try and make them more privacy respecting --- but why bother trying to hit a constantly moving target? Clearly, your privacy is not in their best interests and they will only continue to circumvent it.

Brave is chromium based, which immediately means it's not going to help with anything

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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are not paying for your browser with your wallet, somebody else is paying for you. It has all sorts of implications.

Which one is the browser that i can pay for and keep my privacy, then? Safari?

Netscape Navigator Gold

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

#50

Just imagine if Google was doing something like this; I bet the HN servers would melt down from the outrage! MS often gets a pass in these areas because people think of it as the "underdog", when in reality, MSFT is the biggest software company out there.

MSFT is the biggest software company out there. And Google is the biggest privacy invader out there.

Except that posts like this should change your beliefs towards who the biggest privacy invader really is
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