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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Install Office, use an App that tracks bandwidth use, uploads and downloads, PER app, and be amazed with how many MB/s of data Office sends to Microsoft.

Yeah, I switched to the web version of outlook when I noticed (via little snitch) that the desktop app was sending 100's of MB upstream. No idea why it'd need to send much of anything in that direction.

> switched to the web version of outlook

I don't understand what you believe this gained you.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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To be fair to them, how many fax breaches have you heard about compared to email/website breaches?

I know 3 people off the top of my head that have gotten in trouble for looking up people's health information because it was physically stored on premises. All 3 still work in the medical field to this day, one of them is a doctor... I imagine this is a huge issue in the medical field.

Oh, definitely. Anyone in the medical field who says they've never gossiped about people's health issues is either a saint or bending the truth a bit.

But that's vastly different (though perhaps more invasive) than massive breaches like these: https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/cybersecurity-hacking-he...

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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I installed Windows 10 (not even 11!) recently on a random laptop and was appalled by the amount of BS in the initial setup process. Forced me to make a Microsoft online account seemingly with remote access to my PC, tried to sign me up for several different free trials, then tried multiple times to push me to Edge instead of Chrome. The UI has new crap like the Bing search on the taskbar and in the center of the des…

Pro tip: never give Windows internet access during setup.

Windows 11 will not let you continue without an online account unless you use a tool like Ventoy which automatically bypasses it

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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I don't know your circumstances of course, but I'm anal enough about this that I'd consider that a deal breaker. An employer that forces me to use an OS that treats me like the audience to a television soap opera (meaning, a dumb shmuck who can be puppeted around) is not worth it, it'll kill my joy in working real quick. Tried it, it was horror. So right now, I'd say I'd rather drink my own piss than use a windows bo…

How are you verifying this in job interviews? Not using Windows is at the top of my list of wants in a new job, to me it'd be as good as a $10k raise. But I'm aware that asking about this during an interview sounds petty.

I get that, I felt petty too, but I'm much more productive, and much happier without windows. So you gotta frame it like that. "The cloud runs on linux, I'm most productive when developing natively on something close to where we deploy, can I not use windows?", or, "I have years of bash muscle memory and automate a great deal of mundane tasks, is it okay if I use linux?"

Or otherwise make it a gentle enquiry, "I see you provide laptops, can I get a linux/Mac machine to work on?"

Framing is key ;)

Edit: personally I outright asked "can I choose my own OS, I can't deal with windows, it makes my head hurt" or something like that. If you have the confidence just tell em how it is.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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It's sending URL's, and it's not clear if it is also sending cookies or other auth info. I would think / hope that any images covered by HIPAA would not be leakable by URL alone.

Yeah, since it's sending the URLs, Microsoft couldn't get to the actual images in question because they'd in a private network, behind a login, etc. If the images are hosting on a public domain or IP, that is not on Microsoft.

Under HIPAA, any scrap of "individually identifiable health information" that can be used to connect online data with a patient cannot be sent to a third party without consent.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Could you name some Zelda clones?

The best ones it feels like an insult to call clones, but Tunic is a very good one that comes to mind.

There is a little more to the series at this point than the 30 years old Link to the Past.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Just imagine if Google was doing something like this; I bet the HN servers would melt down from the outrage! MS often gets a pass in these areas because people think of it as the "underdog", when in reality, MSFT is the biggest software company out there.

This is a bizarre perspective. I don't know anyone who thinks of Microsoft as the underdog. I don't know anyone who would support Microsoft viewing their browsing, but condemn Google for the same thing. Your brand loyalty is fooling you into thinking that criticism of your favorite product is the same as promotion of your favorite product's competitors.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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I just had the Edge Desktop Search Bar show up on my desktop. It just appeared from nowhere. Didn't even know when it was "installed". MS is getting really pushy. They probably see the GPT stuff as their ticket to beating Google in search so they are pushing it as hard as they can to get as many users as they can. I just click "turn off". I don't trust LLMs - all their knowledge is learned from the unreliable interne…

I got a laptop in from a user the other day, that shocked the hell out of me, that floating search bar thing. MS is downright creepy the way they slip things in.

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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…

Only a matter of time until Ryan Gosling shows up in someone's X Ray[0] [0] https://petapixel.com/2020/08/17/gigapixel-ai-accidentally-a...

Or before the images accompanying a comparison article between a Samsung Scene Optimizer moonshot and $4,800 Sony astrophotography rig become completely incomprehensible:

https://www.inverse.com/input/reviews/is-samsung-galaxy-s21-...

https://www.samsungmobilepress.com/feature-stories/how-samsu...

Don't want to bring too many Reddit memes over, but if the browser enhances the images on both sides of the comparison, and corporate wants you to identify the differences... what can you say but "they're the same picture"?

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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This is why I don't use Firefox/Chrome/Edge or Linux. I don't want to be the product.

Firefox has had minor missteps in the past but Linux and Firefox are not unsecure options despite being free and Microsoft isn't a safe option despite charging money. Your algorithm is fairly broken.

Even with Linux you have to be careful. Some distros have pulled shit like sending local searches to remote servers so that they can push amazon ads at you (https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do). We have to watch everyone like a hawk these days.
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