We need to get off the GitHub and VsCode dependency before LLM tooling makes it too difficult. It's just a matter of time until those business units are integrated into Microsoft's system of perverse incentives.
Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft
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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft
#82If I were the webmaster of a site which hosted non-public images, this news would be enough for me to either block Edge by its user agent (with an error page explaining the reasoning and alternatives), at least on the pages which contain the images, or omit the images (replacing them with an explanatory message) when the browser is Edge.
Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately brave is forever cemented in my mind as being linked to the brave shitcoin.
Is the Brave shitcoin really worse than all the stupid-ass stunts and services Mozilla has pulled over the years?
Integration of pocket never sent your data to pocket or made you use it. It's scandals are entirely boring.
Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft
#84Just imagine if Google was doing something like this; I bet the HN servers would melt down from the outrage! MS often gets a pass in these areas because people think of it as the "underdog", when in reality, MSFT is the biggest software company out there.
Yup, pretty common theme on this and other online communities. If Apple does something – this is obviously the correct thing to do, and everyone should copy them. If Microsoft does the same thing – meh, no one cares. If Google or Meta does the same thing – pitchforks, outrage, a thousand daily top-voted blog posts detailing how terrible these companies are. Goes to show how much of the current outrage culture is driv…
This does not align with my experience with HN. The pitchforks were properly out and aggressively poking at Apple when Apple declared that images uploaded to the cloud would be actively scanned and reviewed for illegal content. It got to the point where Apple reversed its decision.
Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft
#85Just imagine if Google was doing something like this; I bet the HN servers would melt down from the outrage! MS often gets a pass in these areas because people think of it as the "underdog", when in reality, MSFT is the biggest software company out there.
If it makes you feel any better I still remember a time when it was exactly the other way around
Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you are not paying for your browser with your wallet, somebody else is paying for you. It has all sorts of implications.
This is why I don't use Firefox/Chrome/Edge or Linux. I don't want to be the product.
Where in Linux is the user generally the product?
Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft
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It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.
> Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. Today? Where were you when it's 'free' OS' was 'phoning home' or during it's behemoth days in the 90s-2000s when it forced the most pro-business Government (US) to essentially break it up when it was using it's monoploitic practices too far for even them? I have to use Teams and just logically assume all of what was said or talked about exists on some server somewhere…
Please don’t give up praying about FOSS to the masses. It was a post like this that convinced me to try Linux Arch. I will never look back.
I didn’t boot into my Windows drive for more than a month now. I just keep a bare installation for online games that don’t run on Linux. For now.
Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft
#88Just imagine if Google was doing something like this; I bet the HN servers would melt down from the outrage! MS often gets a pass in these areas because people think of it as the "underdog", when in reality, MSFT is the biggest software company out there.
Yup, pretty common theme on this and other online communities. If Apple does something – this is obviously the correct thing to do, and everyone should copy them. If Microsoft does the same thing – meh, no one cares. If Google or Meta does the same thing – pitchforks, outrage, a thousand daily top-voted blog posts detailing how terrible these companies are. Goes to show how much of the current outrage culture is driv…
Maybe in other communities, but MSFT gets thrashed pretty thoroughly around here, especially when it comes to Edge and Windows. The response to this post is nothing like "meh", and what I'm seeing here is pretty typical of Edge or Windows posts these days.
Here are some of the recent posts I can find about Edge and Windows. There's no shortage of outrage and frustration:
Microsoft Edge removes ability to delete Sync Data from Cloud - Jun 2023 (186 points, 118 comments) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36267087
The Day Windows Died - Apr 2023 (1146 points, 894 comments) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35415758
The dark defaults of Microsoft Edge - Mar 2023 (506 points, 377 comments) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35207830
Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11 - Dec 2022 (543 points, 654 comments) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33943777
Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft
#89This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…
Only a matter of time until Ryan Gosling shows up in someone's X Ray[0]
[0] https://petapixel.com/2020/08/17/gigapixel-ai-accidentally-a...
Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft
#90This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…
OCR in images is becoming the norm. It was a big relief on social media for blind and visually impaired people. Asking for manually created image descriptions and/or transcribed text was too much to ask from the social web. So ML found one of its first public use cases. Composite image description and OCR. And yes, the quality is bad. But nobody really cared about this, esp. not those offering the feature. Holy heartlessness basically says "it is for free, so be happy that we gave it away. If it fails, that is not our fault."