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Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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The hard part of making a social network is the userbase accumulation. Apollo already has the userbase, if they switch all the api calls over to their own backend it truly wouldn’t be that hard. Especially considering the money involved. The only sticking point is in all the people who want things to be “federated” for whatever (generally bogus) reason. Better yet: cloudflare/etc’s preexisting backend.

apollo has read only users mostly, you need to buy pro version to create posts. apollo is 20x times smaller than regular reddit according to app store stats.

Cool, should be even easier to get the ball rolling.

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HN — Mastedon is like “fetch”: it’s not going to happen. Does no one on this site understand there are an infinite number of easier ways to be social than a engineers dream of a self serve social network?

I dislike Mastodon too, but what changes do you think Mastodon and Lemmy need to be a viable option?

Twitters real issue is that it’s dated. Have you seen modern social networks? They are highly visual and much more stimulating for better or worse. Copying Twitter might as well be like copying a 1920s radio for how outdated it is. Complete paradigm shift since then with messaging and video.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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You've gotta remove the default subreddits which are largely dog shit. Seriously, whoever decided that trash like "r/prequelmemes" or even "r/formula1" should qualify to appear on reddit's home page needs to get a new job.

They moved from curated default subreddits to algorithmic some time ago (with some exclusions for NSFW and controversial subreddits). That said, even the curated selection wasn't always good, I think I remember f7u12 making it to the defaults at one point.

Having defaults sucked anyway because any subreddit that ended up on there was almost guaranteed to plummet in quality. IIRC the only subreddit that managed to avoid that (way back when I still used reddit) was /r/science because they had strict moderation to stop it from turning into a mess of image macros and DAE posts.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Early this year, I added a blocklist for Reddit on my PC and deleted the app. I did it upon the realization that for me: 1. It was a time waste. It was entertaining, but more often than not, it wasn't useful or helpful at all. Classic short-term gratification. 2. Various issues with how it was run started to frustrate me. Advertising appearing as genuine posts, poor moderation / mod abuse. Also seemed to be a conflic…

What’s the best way to block it on mobile?

I just started using this service: https://controld.com/

$20 a year and acts as an ad-blocker too. NextDNS is another one. It's nice you don't need to install anything (other than configuring DNS). Using DNS for ad-blocking also avoids the "we noticed you're using an ad-blocker" popups.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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I’ll be honest, HN is the last place I’d expect to find people who underestimate the difficulty of creating a social network, but every single post about Reddit lately has had one or more comments about how the creators of Reddit clients should “just” make their own backend and take their users with them.

I mean, it's 2023. Web-based simple threaded conversation platforms should be absolutely trivial to develop/clone/deploy. I'm not convinced building a Reddit is hard, at all. But getting a mass adoption of users to make it worth using is. Which is why I'm continually surprised some startup+VC combo doesn't just build it and then pay the top 1000 broad-to-niche influencers out there to sign up and start relentlessly h…

The hard part is dealing with abuse. If you could guarantee that all content posted will be kosher and in good faith, building a basic scalable Reddit backend is not super hard.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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That's why the blackout needs to be permanent. If even 25% of the users have no clue what's happening and thinks Reddit is crapping out for a couple days they'll shrug their shoulders and use it 48 hours later when it's back up. I don't understand what they think they're protesting by timeboxing it .. Reddit can afford wait it out 48 hours and plan for that. I guarantee people are going to get an error they can't vie…

The mods only power in life is on Reddit. If they give that up they lose everything. Once in a while some crazy stats like 5 mods control 20% of the top 500 subreddits pop up, I’ve never tried to validate but there is definitely a small group with a lot of power among mods Their entire purpose in life is being a Reddit mod, they’re the ones people expect to kill Reddit?

That's one of the saddest things I've ever read.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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I am on reddit quite a bit. I see many announcements that other subreddits are going dark to protest. The api changes seem to be the biggest thing. I am wondering if anyone in the c-suite has taken notice or if they just have blinders on for the IPO. Honestly it is a tough spot to be in. But if you think about it, without the users and moderators, reddit has nothing.

I think they're caught in a pickle because they've sold "discounted" bulk API access to ML model training companies, discounted relative to the baseline that Reddit was planning to charge these client apps.

At least that was the speculation on HN when the story first came out.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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There’s a small but real chance that this movement turns into a mass exodus from reddit. Mismanagement can absolutely kill social media companies, and when it happens it happens fast. Take the mass exodus from FreeNode as an example. The thing to watch for is if the admins take control of any major subreddits. That’s what killed FreeNode.

I think this conflict has been long brewing and has little to do with Apollo, and more to do with powermods running many subreddits not liking that the bots they use will get charged for API usage. I think powermods don't want to draw the slightest attention to themselves (because users and press would start looking at them a bit too closely) or how/why they use bots. The overwhelming majority of popular or even "pop…

Why are you being downvoted? I wasn't aware this was happening. Thanks for the context.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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I wish I had a lobste.rs membership now.

The problem with lobste.rs is that I'm not sure that the people whose opinions I want to read give a shit about jumping the hoops to get a membership, you know what I mean? All the people on it are people who cared enough to be on it.
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