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r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

#51

HN might as well just run the headline that Reddit is shutting down permanently. All the major subs are either temporarily or permanently shutting down in protest. Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet? Its the only way to ensure the community survives at this point; Reddit leadership has already proven they only wish to harm both shareholders and the community at large under the guise of…

its not the only way to ensure a community survives, forums have existed before reddit and will exist later. You even have examples of communities that left, created their own version of reddit and seem to be doing fine.

> Reddit leadership has already proven they only wish to harm both shareholders and the community at large under the guise of "increasing shareholder value" and shove their fiduciary duty under the bus.

reddit isn't a public company, so unless the current owners who are the ones putting all this in motion are looking into self-flagellation they haven't proven a thing. The reality is that reddit is huge, and most users couldn't care less about all this drama.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

#52

We get it, a lot of subreddits are going on strike to protest the API changes. I just wish this forum does not become the place-to-be to discuss how much reddit sucks. There's been at least 3-4 stories about the reddit API changes on the frontpage of hackernews for the past week at least.

Fun fact: Reddit was backed by YC back in the day when they launched.

Also, people are probably interested to see if Reddit will collapse or not. And to find out where people will go instead.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

#53

I wish I had a lobste.rs membership now.

I could help you there if you'd like.

14 years on reddit as a user, 16 years reading it... Lobste.rs looks exactly like Reddit did in 2006 or so. I'd love to be back in a space like that.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

#54

The worst part about this is that blind Reddit users are being left completely without a solution, and won't be able to read Reddit at all. Multiple attempts at engagement with Reddit itself have been ignored. See the discussion here: https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_w...

That's why the blackout needs to be permanent. If even 25% of the users have no clue what's happening and thinks Reddit is crapping out for a couple days they'll shrug their shoulders and use it 48 hours later when it's back up. I don't understand what they think they're protesting by timeboxing it .. Reddit can afford wait it out 48 hours and plan for that.

I guarantee people are going to get an error they can't view the subreddit without reading why they can't.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

#55
I’ll be honest, HN is the last place I’d expect to find people who underestimate the difficulty of creating a social network, but every single post about Reddit lately has had one or more comments about how the creators of Reddit clients should “just” make their own backend and take their users with them.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

#56
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There’s a small but real chance that this movement turns into a mass exodus from reddit. Mismanagement can absolutely kill social media companies, and when it happens it happens fast. Take the mass exodus from FreeNode as an example. The thing to watch for is if the admins take control of any major subreddits. That’s what killed FreeNode.

Sometimes it happens, but often it doesn't. E.g. fandom is doing as good as ever despite many leaving in protest events. Time will tell which this is.

"good as ever" means what for fandom. I've never heard of it.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

#57

The worst part about this is that blind Reddit users are being left completely without a solution, and won't be able to read Reddit at all. Multiple attempts at engagement with Reddit itself have been ignored. See the discussion here: https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_w...

Seems they might be running afoul of the ADA if they do this and have no usable solution for the blind.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

#58

The worst part about this is that blind Reddit users are being left completely without a solution, and won't be able to read Reddit at all. Multiple attempts at engagement with Reddit itself have been ignored. See the discussion here: https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_w...

Didn't they say somewhere the API fees won't apply to accessibility focused apps today? Either way, reddit will be dead if they go through with this, so let's make sure the next big thing we pick has accessibility in mind out of the gate.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

#59

The worst part about this is that blind Reddit users are being left completely without a solution, and won't be able to read Reddit at all. Multiple attempts at engagement with Reddit itself have been ignored. See the discussion here: https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_w...

I thought Reddit announced they would exempt accessibility-focused apps from their API charges in an attempt to not cut off, among others, the blind.
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