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Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by somsak2 »

627467 wrote: post #184

Up until not long ago there would be plenty of post here saying how Google is useless and how appending `site:reddit.com` to any query was the only way to get decent results. This thread is all about how bad reddit is, as if their content has disappeared. They don't need defense but I'm amazed at how volatile people's opinions are.

It's sort of like the Chinese government vs. Chinese people. I can hate what the government does without any malice towards a Chinese person. Same thing going on here -- the content that is produced by Reddit users is still just as valuable even if the leadership are bozos. Nobody is claiming that Reddit content itself has somehow instantly gotten worse.

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Post by numpad0 »

fullshark wrote: post #93
numpad0 wrote: post #77

This organized “protest” is starting to look like a great move from Reddit to flush the userbase to replace with new users. Field burning is a commonly used (unsustainable) technique in agriculture.

Replace with new users? How do you go about doing that and why would they want that?

Those suckers keeps signing up anyways, the content and communities just don’t matter, except when it chases off new people and stifle mobility and prevents continuous growth.

The value of Reddit to human society at large and the value it provides the corporate that owns it are not at all aligned. There’s a potential they negatively correlate, even. They need new people going through the gates to the Library of Alexandria, and the books are just means to it.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by tapland »

sv123 wrote: post #227
canadianfella wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes there are. Lots of money can be made as mods of popular subreddits.

How do they do that? Asking for a friend.

You let some selfpromoting astroturfed stuff slip > product/service has an unbeliveable sales increase

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by dejawu »

A lot has been written about how Reddit should/deserves to die, but not much has been said about what a loss of a community it will be. Besides providing amusement, Reddit is the reason I'm a better programmer, partner, and person today. Reddit taught me things that my school never did but should have. It's the only social media I can say that about. I'm sure I'm far from the only person out there with this kind of story. I fully believe people will be worse off without Reddit to go to, if it really does die off.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by belltaco »

afavour wrote: post #126
willcipriano wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about: > 845.9K Likes > 237.6K Retweets In a day and a half for a ten minute video of a guy in his basement talking. It isn't even a video platform.

But what is the argument here? 237k retweets is a lot, sure. This tweet from 2020 has 883k retweets and is just four photos: https://twitter.com/BTS_twt/status/1296701109340237824 So does 237k retweets in 2023 mean the network is as vital as it was in 2020? I have no idea what basis this argument is being made on.

Does it mean Twitter is dead though? That's the basis of this thread.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by tomrod »

Reading the headlines, I'm in Apollo's camp. But holy moly, this guy does himself no favors with extremely hard to follow comms where he is trying to make a deal:

https://gist.github.com/christianselig/fda7e8bc5a25aec9824f9...

(This is Apollo's lead dev).

Again, I'm not an apologist for Reddit -- their pricing is absurd -- my point is simply this drama seems expounded because of frankly bad comms.

EDIT: its also nuts that /u/spez is relaying the exchange as a threat?!?

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by rcxdude »

Solvency wrote: post #145
codetrotter wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All the founders of these apps just seem oblivious to this. Not oblivious. Read the post by Apollo developer at https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_w... Relevant excerpt: > Will you build a competitor? Move to one of the existing alternatives? > I've received so many messages of kind people offering to work with me to build a competitor to Reddit, and while I'm very flattered, that's not some…

This strikes me as weird. He could literally call up any VC firm in the world right now and tell them he'll point his endpoints to a new backend if they give him some money. He doesn't even have to be involved in that part of the business. Just let them figure it out (with their own choice team) and he'll re-rig the app to it.

This is still an pretty substantial amount of effort, and a lot of risk. I really don't blame anyone for not doing this, especially if they also have another successful business that they are running already.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by tester457 »

tsunamifury wrote: post #149
DiabloD3 wrote: post #17

HN might as well just run the headline that Reddit is shutting down permanently. All the major subs are either temporarily or permanently shutting down in protest. Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet? Its the only way to ensure the community survives at this point; Reddit leadership has already proven they only wish to harm both shareholders and the community at large under the guise of…

HN — Mastedon is like “fetch”: it’s not going to happen. Does no one on this site understand there are an infinite number of easier ways to be social than a engineers dream of a self serve social network?

I dislike Mastodon too, but what changes do you think Mastodon and Lemmy need to be a viable option?

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by rcxdude »

numpad0 wrote: post #77

This organized “protest” is starting to look like a great move from Reddit to flush the userbase to replace with new users. Field burning is a commonly used (unsustainable) technique in agriculture.

That would make sense except a large chunk are their most valuable users for attracting people to and keeping them on the platform: moderators and power users who submit links. You can't have the 90% of users who never vote, submit, or comment on anything without the 10% who do.
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