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the moderation here literally doesn't care about the authors and developers who provide the links to the articles. routinely they let them be harassed and derided on HN and do not care to focus on their attempts to stay off and away from that. it's completely expected but still shameful.
Yeeeeeah, your stretching with your definition of harassment.
OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
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Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
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> I don't see how this is any different than early linux when no hardware manufacturers had any interest in supporting it. It's very different. Hardware manufacturers in the 90s were incentivized to support Linux to expand their customer base. A trillion-dollar corporation has no incentive to sell their hardware to a niche of a niche of technical users who are not part of their software ecosystem. Another major diffe…
This feels... fairly ahistorical. > Hardware manufacturers in the 90s were incentivized to support Linux to expand their customer base. Outside of some server niches (though even then, mostly not til the noughties), not really. You generally weren't looking at much first-party support at all in the 90s. > Unsupported hardware in the 90s typically had a much larger customer base and group of hackers willing to spend t…
I wasn't making a historical claim, but a philosophical one. Hardware manufacturers in the 90s had that incentive, if they wanted to pursue it. To Apple, a trillion dollar corporation, selling a negligible amount of laptops to a niche crowd of tech enthusiasts who will never become part of their software ecosystem is just not worth the effort to even pursue.
> This... is really not the case. The M1/2 Macs are _close_ to being one platform with something on the order of a hundred million units out there.
Right. And how many of those buyers are also Linux hackers willing to dedicate their time to work on projects like Asahi? How many of those would even be willing to run Linux instead of macOS? We're talking about an extremely small community of users compared even to the small Linux community in the 90s.
> Yeah, again, that _very_ much happened in the 90s.
Never said it didn't. Except that Apple is known for locking down their products, so the good faith they're showing now with leaving Macs relatively open can disappear at any moment.
Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
the moderation here literally doesn't care about the authors and developers who provide the links to the articles. routinely they let them be harassed and derided on HN and do not care to focus on their attempts to stay off and away from that. it's completely expected but still shameful.
Yeeeeeah, your stretching with your definition of harassment.
Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
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Looks like jwz links also have a "noreferrer" tag added as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3132752 New silent HN policy to avoid showing its users that some people don't like them.
This is extremely gross 'Dang, and I'm wondering how you can possibly defend doing this. Seriously, why are you going to these lengths to evade a soft-block on links to specific sites that very clearly and explicitly are communicating that they don't want HN's traffic?
Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
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> This raises interesting moral questions that I'm not sure I have an answer to. It's not really all that much of a moral conundrum. Marcan's belief - expressed a number of times on his Mastodon - appears to be that he can prevent other people from discussing something, for the sole reason he doesn't want it discussed. It's not a particularly defensible position in an open society. In particular, he is upset that peo…
Quit with the gaslighting. It's not about an anime avatar, and you know it. The problem is more that HN is perceived, with good reason, to be transphobic, and Asahi has several trans developers. This is also the reason why a couple of other people I won't mention don't want HN to link to their projects either, because for every link, several people will bitch in the comments about the validity of their gender and pro…
Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
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This raises interesting moral questions that I'm not sure I have an answer to. For one, I don't believe this place fosters a hostile environment, although it's definitely a place where people love to tell you how you're technically wrong about something. For another, I would guess that there are a very limited number of websites that would opt into this sort of anti-traffic behavior. Hacker news could certainly choos…
> This raises interesting moral questions that I'm not sure I have an answer to. It's not really all that much of a moral conundrum. Marcan's belief - expressed a number of times on his Mastodon - appears to be that he can prevent other people from discussing something, for the sole reason he doesn't want it discussed. It's not a particularly defensible position in an open society. In particular, he is upset that peo…
And again, when some rando says "they want to prevent people from discussing, free speech!" the topic is always the same, they want to be freely racist, homophobic, whatever. Cmon man, just stop.
Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
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Yeeeeeah, your stretching with your definition of harassment.
adding a config to your webserver to evade a soft block is directly enabling continued harassment. Its not passive, not "I'm just getting out of the way here", not "I can't stop this, not my fault", you are literally editing your webservers config file for a site-specific change to allow your forum visitors to evade an explicit block, a block enacted because of harassment.
Celebrities deal with much worse, yet they don't consider "Taylor switft is ugly" harassment.