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Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Re: Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Post by lostlogin »

idiotsecant wrote: post #84
washadjeffmad wrote: post #77

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We've got sets of Indian brass, Korean steel, and Japanese lacquered wood food containers that we use in addition to ceramics and glass. The glass chips, and once it does we tend to avoid using it for food. Because all of these things last or compound over a lifetime, it's only expensive to be healthful if you wait.

What is with putting superfluous place names in front of things? Are you trying to sound fancy? You have steel and wood food containers.

Those containers have a shape and style and the place names allow me to visualise what they look like.

Re: Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Post by dekhn »

haswell wrote: post #41
olalonde wrote: post #36

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When the risk is small enough, it seems rational to ignore it.

The more we learn, the less reasonable it seems to dismiss the risk as small enough to ignore.

in many cases it's the opposite: the more we've learned, the more we recognize that the body is able to tolerate small doses of many things in a way where the effects at larger doses don't scale down (IE, the linear no-threshold model is probably wrong in many cases, beyond radiation)

Re: Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Post by idiotsecant »

myth_drannon wrote: post #52
neom wrote: post #4

My mum when I was a kid in the 90s: we don't store things in plastic, glass or ceramic only Me when I was a kid in the 90s: mum is a f'ing idiot wtf is wrong with plastic this hippy shit is dumb My mum 2020s: so plastic huh? Me 2020s: ugh.

We threw away all our glass containers because they constantly chip. I'm more afraid of ingesting piece of sharp glass than nanoplastics. I don't know why that keeps happenning, I guess dishwasher's high heat damages the glass or they keep bumping into each other.

That's weird, I pretty much exclusively use glass food storage and it's never chipped. And I just got some random ones off Amazon, not like they're some super high quality or anything

Re: Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Post by thombat »

arsome wrote: post #63
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #56

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You would poop the glass though

Yeah, generally speaking unless it's a very large shard and cuts your esophagus, once it reaches your stomach, acids will knock the edges off and it'll pass without issue.

Gastric acid is basically hydrochloric acid, and rather less concentrated than the standard laboratory bench HCl, which stands peaceably for years in glass flasks. I would be wary of assuming that chemical attack will quickly blunt glass shards.

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Post by DubiousPusher »

nahstra wrote: post #67
deelowe wrote: post #51

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One of my favorite quotes is: "A problem is a challenge with a least one workable solution. A dilemma is challenge with multiple choices, all equally bad." If we eliminated all PFAS chemicals today, society would collapse. What's the point of eliminating PFAS chemicals to improve life expectancy if the very act of doing so would cause a famine?

What products use PFAS whose absence would cause society to collapse? If you look at the major sources of PFAS by 3M, it's not like these were essential products. Here's a random list from wisconsin.gov: Cleaning products. Water-resistant fabrics, such as rain jackets, umbrellas and tents. Grease-resistant paper. Nonstick cookware. Personal care products, like shampoo, dental floss, nail polish, and eye makeup. Stain…

I think the biggest material impact for any curb on plastics would largely be felt in medicine. Disposability is huge in preventing infection. Also, many medical implants rely on the combination of elasticity and strength found in plastics.

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Post by idiotsecant »

lostlogin wrote: post #91
idiotsecant wrote: post #84

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What is with putting superfluous place names in front of things? Are you trying to sound fancy? You have steel and wood food containers.

Those containers have a shape and style and the place names allow me to visualise what they look like.

Nobody else knows what your country of origin status symbol words are supposed to mean, so using them to communicate has one clear motive and it isn't clarity

Re: Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Post by adhesive_wombat »

mszcz wrote: post #62
adhesive_wombat wrote: post #46

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> basically unbreakable The clip-retaining rims seem to love to chip on the IKEA 365 style ones. The long-tabbed GlassLock ones seem less vulnerable to that. Which not unique to glass boxes, I'm still amazed by how robust the living hinges can be, some are going on 10 years and haven't split yet.

That's interesting. I have around 10-15 of those IKEA 365 glass containers with plastic lids and have never had them chip. I stick them in the dishwasher all the time.

I have had Lock&Lock ones, of almost exactly the same design, for about 10 years and they're only recently starting become significantly chipped, but I had an IKEA one get a small chip within months. Maybe it's how I stack then without lids (physically don't have cupboard space to store with lids on).

Re: Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Post by organsnyder »

kingkawn wrote: post #78
Grazester wrote: post #24

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And that is fine. We aren't going to be taking our spoons and forks and scraping the food from the plastic lip as we would with the container nor is the lid in contact with food should we warm it in the microware.

real confident bout that, kind of like everyone who said that the rest of the container being plastic was acceptable before...

Perhaps not perfect, but it's at least a massive improvement over all-plastic containers.

Re: Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Post by ifyoubuildit »

clnq wrote: post #43
Grazester wrote: post #32

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I don't think someone trying to be totally healthy is going to be drinking Soda or any of these juices with their ridiculously high sugar content anyway.

Two things: 1. Lots of drinks come in metal cans with BPA lining on the inside. 2. You can absolutely be reasonably healthy and drink some of these drinks, including the variants that are not sugar-free. I don’t think most people try to be perfectionistically healthy. But I think PFAs are not anywhere closer “reasonably healthy” to consume.

It's kinda like saying people can be reasonably healthy and still smoke some cigarettes. True enough, but if someone is trying to be healthy that's a pretty obvious change to make.
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