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Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Re: Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Post by deelowe »

EGreg wrote: post #30

Sorry people, but you can't stop it: 1. https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/04/11/how-much-plastic-d... 2. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/24/micropla... 3. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/15/winds-ca... Because humanity and capitalism's incentives are just wrong. Bottling companies like Coca Cola and Snapple have long switched to plastic bottles, and externalized the cost to the env…

One of my favorite quotes is:

"A problem is a challenge with a least one workable solution. A dilemma is challenge with multiple choices, all equally bad."

If we eliminated all PFAS chemicals today, society would collapse. What's the point of eliminating PFAS chemicals to improve life expectancy if the very act of doing so would cause a famine?

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Post by myth_drannon »

neom wrote: post #4

My mum when I was a kid in the 90s: we don't store things in plastic, glass or ceramic only Me when I was a kid in the 90s: mum is a f'ing idiot wtf is wrong with plastic this hippy shit is dumb My mum 2020s: so plastic huh? Me 2020s: ugh.

We threw away all our glass containers because they constantly chip. I'm more afraid of ingesting piece of sharp glass than nanoplastics. I don't know why that keeps happenning, I guess dishwasher's high heat damages the glass or they keep bumping into each other.

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Post by ren_engineer »

neom wrote: post #4

My mum when I was a kid in the 90s: we don't store things in plastic, glass or ceramic only Me when I was a kid in the 90s: mum is a f'ing idiot wtf is wrong with plastic this hippy shit is dumb My mum 2020s: so plastic huh? Me 2020s: ugh.

will be interesting to see if plastic ends up being our modern day equivalent to Rome and their lead pipes

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Post by derekja »

isametry wrote: post #26
Pxtl wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good set of mason jars is great for lunches, for salads and pastas and the like. They seal better than tupper, they're microwave-safe, they're standardized so you can get replacement lids easily, and they're pretty rugged. I use metal when the kids are too young for glass.

By "too young for glass", I'm assuming you mainly hint at weight – which happens to be basically the only, but quite significant downside to glass. The material itself is already about 1.5× to 2× as dense as your average container plastic, plus since you're aiming for at least a decent strength, on top of that the wall thickness will probably be several times larger too.

I had presumed he meant breakage and the shards turning into little knives.

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Post by veemjeem »

EGreg wrote: post #30

Sorry people, but you can't stop it: 1. https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/04/11/how-much-plastic-d... 2. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/24/micropla... 3. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/15/winds-ca... Because humanity and capitalism's incentives are just wrong. Bottling companies like Coca Cola and Snapple have long switched to plastic bottles, and externalized the cost to the env…

I've read that the majority of microplastics come from tire wear (national geographic quoted 28% of the total), and because there's no good alternative to wheel tires, it's unlikely we'll see a decrease of pollution here. So even if we found an alternative to bottles, plastic bags, clothing, etc, it still won't make a dent in pollution unless we convince the world to use a form of public transit that doesn't make use of plastic tires.

We could reduce human consumption of the particles if we only consumed lab-grown meat & hydroponically grown vegetables where the water is ultra-filtered before use.

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

myth_drannon wrote: post #52
neom wrote: post #4

My mum when I was a kid in the 90s: we don't store things in plastic, glass or ceramic only Me when I was a kid in the 90s: mum is a f'ing idiot wtf is wrong with plastic this hippy shit is dumb My mum 2020s: so plastic huh? Me 2020s: ugh.

We threw away all our glass containers because they constantly chip. I'm more afraid of ingesting piece of sharp glass than nanoplastics. I don't know why that keeps happenning, I guess dishwasher's high heat damages the glass or they keep bumping into each other.

You would poop the glass though

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Post by nologic01 »

JR1427 wrote: post #47

It would be worth checking that the concentrations of microplastics used in this study are of a similar concentration to those found naturally. Otherwise the research is not very meaningful.

Could you elaborate on naturally found microplastics?

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Post by balaji1 »

actionfromafar wrote: post #44
bilekas wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would have assumed (probably incorrectly) that the 'seal' which would come in contact with the glass & liquids would be a type of silicone lid, while it could be considered a type of plastic, if its a good food grade lid, I would imagine it's a bit better ? Ironically though silicone is much harder to recycle though.

U don’t recycle plastic, you burn it in a furnace. Spread the word.

Burning seems to be the only good idea over long-term. But someone on HN explained that there are some toxic byproducts to burning plastic. Dioxins for one. So we need some way to capture those waste and store it along with the nuclear waste lol.

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Post by wkearney99 »

olalonde wrote: post #36
jjallen wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So don’t try and minimize it altogether because you’re getting some elsewhere? This isn’t good logic.

When the risk is small enough, it seems rational to ignore it.

Emphasis on /seems/. It all adds up, small or not.

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Post by anlaw »

ren_engineer wrote: post #53
neom wrote: post #4

My mum when I was a kid in the 90s: we don't store things in plastic, glass or ceramic only Me when I was a kid in the 90s: mum is a f'ing idiot wtf is wrong with plastic this hippy shit is dumb My mum 2020s: so plastic huh? Me 2020s: ugh.

will be interesting to see if plastic ends up being our modern day equivalent to Rome and their lead pipes

Sounds like leaded gas. Wasn’t banned until 1980s.

Our leaders are 80 year old post war shell shocked, Cold War paranoids who huffed leaded gas fumes for decades. Explains quite a lot actually.

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