Apple's game porting toolkit is fantastic. Cyberpunk 2077 at Ultra on an M1 MBP

Post by goosedragons » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 9:26 AM UTC

metmac wrote: post #14

whizzter wrote: post #10

This actually makes me wonder if I should sell my Apple stocks, that they even put out something like this (even if only as an "evaluation tool" and based on CrossOvers GPL code) screams as an validation that there is enough developers ignoring Apple/Metal that they're actually starting to hurt from a lack of titles. Sure, everyone doing Unity or Unreal will probably have the middleware take care of the biggest diffe…

I think this response lacks the context of the current state of the video game industry. In my mind this is no different than nVidia providing white glove engineering support and optimizations for titles to run on their GPUS. There is a reason nVidia has generally won the consumer GPU arms race over the years over AMD. They go out of their way to support studios and titles, compared to what AMD does imho. It shows th…

Post by GeekyBear » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 9:29 AM UTC

manuelabeledo wrote: post #9

eliasmacpherson wrote: post #7

Fantastic would be 25fps, this isn't there yet.

The tool is not meant to be used for that. It is fantastic in the sense that it was achieved with no changes to the game whatsoever. I'm wondering if this is also translating the binary with Rosetta.

Post by renewiltord » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 9:32 AM UTC

Post by the_gipsy » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 9:36 AM UTC

yurishimo wrote: post #18

whizzter wrote: post #10

This actually makes me wonder if I should sell my Apple stocks, that they even put out something like this (even if only as an "evaluation tool" and based on CrossOvers GPL code) screams as an validation that there is enough developers ignoring Apple/Metal that they're actually starting to hurt from a lack of titles. Sure, everyone doing Unity or Unreal will probably have the middleware take care of the biggest diffe…

You're gonna sell your stocks in the most successful tech company of all time because they don't have enough video games? I think Apple has proven they can grow a company's value without games. But what we all want is a larger investment in games so the Mac becomes a competitive platform again. Not to mention the headset... we'll see, but there is no reason to expect it won't be an insane commercial success by gen 3.

Post by scns » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 9:37 AM UTC

mort96 wrote: post #29

DCKing wrote: post #25

From what I gather, Game Porting Toolkit is two things - a fork of Wine, and their own adaptation/extension of open source projects for DirectX compatibility. Some observations: Windows compatibility: * Windows platform compatibility is achieved with a slightly patched version of Codeweavers' Wine fork - virtually all of the hard work of Windows compatibility has been achieved by the Wine developers and Codeweavers a…

It's sad that D3DMetal isn't open source. Worth noting that this stuff is exactly why people should strongly consider using a copyleft license. It's pretty annoying that nobody can build on top of Apple's work here or incorporate any improvements into DXVK, but that's the license the DXVK project chose.