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US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution ?

ctrl-f that page for 'consciousness' and report back.

Not a wiki article, but From Bacteria to Bach and Back is more or less about this very subject.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Perhaps people simply aren't prepared to accept the implications of the government lying about this - as well as successfully covering it up - for so long. It's a big impact to a persons world view.

Why would I care if the government was lying about little green men? Who cares? They’ve been lying since the beginning. If there was evidence, there’d be evidence.

The interesting thing about this is that there is now evidence (see: Navy videos), and we have also seen what the US government does to people who try to show classified documents as evidence (see: Snowden, Manning, Assange, etc)

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step 1: Throw shit against the wall step 2: See what sticks step 3: Amplify that messaging step 4: Exercise power through providing spectacle and influencing attention step 5: Pacify with spectacle or agitate differences through amplified narratives to create chaos or division Am I insane for thinking that nation state manipulation of social media narrative is a more likely explanation for the upsurge of UFO/alien re…

No, you're not insane. That's a more rational explanation than ET is.

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> US is the only one winning Civilization Earth. Depends what you mean by winning. Other countries have different priorities, for instance the health and welfare of the population over individual wealth. That doesn't make one right or wrong, but it really this reflects on your priorities more than anything else. And that's ok! I'm just saying it's subjective, not objective, and there's no reason to believe that some…

Aliens would probably not care that french people have more vacation days.

Well if we’re making silly reductive arguments I’m not sure they’d care how many zeroes are in Warren Buffets brokerage account. But you know EADS/Airbus headquarters is in Toulouse if that’s more your speed. There’s also Alstom and SNCF off hand. TotalEnergies. Hermes. Dior. Sanofi. Schneider Electric. Air Liquide. Essilor. You didn’t think they were agrarians did you? They’re the second biggest economy in Europe!

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Alright HN, we all know that this is likely untrue, from a rational angle, and this thread is full of reasons why, but play this mental exercise with me for a minute: What if its true ? What repercussions would having alien technology have on civilization? Would this fundamentally change beliefs? Influence religion? EDIT: someone pointed out to make this more stimulating we need constrains, assuming the following is…

There’s literally billions of words written about this - they’re called sci-fi novels. For this to be an interesting question, you need to specify what exactly is true - then we can game implications. Are we positing that aliens exist? That FTL/time travel is possible? That aliens are attacking, like right now?

Some unsolicited recommendations for sci-fi novels that cover this topic well:

- "The Mote in God's Eye" by Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven (1974)

- "A Fire Upon The Deep" by Vernor Vinge (1992)

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Not really, most great tech originates in the US. China etc are good at copying. I know that’s an unfashionable statement, but let’s do away with this false modesty for once Btw I’m not from the US.

The US can't even manufacture an iPhone if they wanted to. The world's tech comes out of East Asia.

The US voluntarily gave up its industrial manufacturing to countries that were more willing to exploit their workers.

"Designed in Cupertino. Made in China".

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step 1: Throw shit against the wall step 2: See what sticks step 3: Amplify that messaging step 4: Exercise power through providing spectacle and influencing attention step 5: Pacify with spectacle or agitate differences through amplified narratives to create chaos or division Am I insane for thinking that nation state manipulation of social media narrative is a more likely explanation for the upsurge of UFO/alien re…

The Flying Dutchman is thought to probably have been a Fata Morgana.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Dutchman

With everyone handwringing about climate change clearly being our doom, has no one once wondered if it might be partly responsible for an upsurge in sightings of unexplained aerial phenomenon?

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step 1: Throw shit against the wall step 2: See what sticks step 3: Amplify that messaging step 4: Exercise power through providing spectacle and influencing attention step 5: Pacify with spectacle or agitate differences through amplified narratives to create chaos or division Am I insane for thinking that nation state manipulation of social media narrative is a more likely explanation for the upsurge of UFO/alien re…

We've been warned for a while about this type of thing going on. I guess this is it, it's going on, and we can maybe expect it to be amplified with LLMs.

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My sense is that you could remove Steven Greer and it would be something else? Sorry I have a rather pessimistic take.

JFK conspiracy theory content is second to the "antigravity technology stolen from aliens" on her list, so you're not wrong, but Steven Greer has the same reach as those fricken JFK conventions. He'll never go away...

Replace it with Game of Thrones?

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Perhaps people simply aren't prepared to accept the implications of the government lying about this - as well as successfully covering it up - for so long. It's a big impact to a persons world view.

That can have many reads. For example from the article:

"The report followed a leak of military footage that showed apparently inexplicable happenings in the sky, while navy pilots testified that they had frequently had encounters with strange craft off the US coast."

I read it as, "We detected several times a military aircraft, that a country expected to be undetectable, flying over our territory, we send you the proof that such plane could have been knocked down; stop doing it" at same time they don't admit such other country violated the territory having to rise up a conflict.

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