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US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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The ultimate reason why I don’t believe in this despite the attention this seem to be getting from congress and the more reliable than one can expect witnesses at least if we take them on face values this time around is that Trump hasn’t tweeted a selfie with ET during his presidency…

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I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following: There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently): 1. These crafts are ET origin 2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar) 3. This is a psyop Due to the supposed fee…

>There are 3 comprehensive possibilities

I'd say there is a 4th comprehensive possibility: these are one or more natural phenomenon we've yet to document and may have no intelligence behind them at all.

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I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following: There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently): 1. These crafts are ET origin 2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar) 3. This is a psyop Due to the supposed fee…

why is it always the navy pilots that always see the aliens, and not the commercial pilots. is it because navy pilots are more likely to be flying at some combination of high speed, bad weather conditions, or darkness that tends to make ordinary occurrences look more mysterious?

>and not the commercial pilots

Because they don't want to lose their job when their employer thinks they're nuts and shouldn't be flying hundreds of people.

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It likely would be the biggest threat given the weapons tech though. You generally want to study the things that pose the biggest threat for self preservation.

This is highly speculative on both of our parts. I do think it's presumptuous to assume we'd be a threat to an entity that traveled >4ly. It sounds a lot like picking which classical civilization to study based on how strong their bows are when you are traveling in a stealth bomber.

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> If I came across a planet of smart monkeys and one monkey state had the most baddest mfers with the most insane tech and research, I’d want to learn about them. Sounds like they'd care more about China/South Korea/Japan/Taiwan/etc then.

Not really, most great tech originates in the US. China etc are good at copying. I know that’s an unfashionable statement, but let’s do away with this false modesty for once Btw I’m not from the US.

The US can't even manufacture an iPhone if they wanted to. The world's tech comes out of East Asia.

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Aliens just seem to love the USA, don't they? Just like giant prehistoric sea monsters seem to love Japan. It's totally not a cover-up for another black project.

FTA: > “Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”

> a global solution continues to elude us

You gotta love the implied premise that there's a problem to be solved, because of course that's all our government is good for: solving problems it creates.

I think the problem here is the government's tendency to lie to its citizens. The solution is unrelated to aliens.

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I saw an interview with this guy just yesterday. He didn't see anything himself. His claim is that some people, and he believes them to be trustworthy, confided in him and showed him some documents. So, at best his testimony is hearsay. All of this stuff reeks of some kind of psyop. My belief is that for some reason, the US government used psychology tests to identify a select few people who naturally "want to believ…

It's hilarious watching how HN upvotes insane theory instead of crazy theory. Wild times!

There is a very very simple explanation, which is that everything he says is true. There is a secret program, they did reverse engineer, they did withhold it from congress, and people did tell him that there is alien stuff.

Why make up silly make believe?

The guy isn't claiming 'oh i saw aliens'. He could simply be telling the absolute truth.

Why so many people told him there were aliens, I dunno, but who cares. Those people aren't the ones whistleblowing and so it doesn't really matter, does it?

I for one believe the guy, 100%

My only complaint is that perhaps he should probably be a bit more circumspect about what actually exists.

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> the premise is contrary to numerous, basic logical inferences How so? The argument for no aliens is lack of evidence, not evidence of their lack.

Absence of evidence absolutely is evidence of absence. Like the absence of evidence of an invisible dragon in your garage.

If there were a large animal in my garage, I would hear it.

Is there were a large animal in my garage, I would see droppings.

If there were aliens, we would......what exactly?

Every day we see new stuff in the universe that we didn't see before.

The difference between my garage and the universe is immense.

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Off topic but somewhat related... As of late, I've really enjoyed watching FPV racing drone footage on YouTube. And it's made wonder - if commercial drones currently on the market are capable of this: https://youtube.com/shorts/mMmBC2nwcjY?feature=share3 What do you get when you have a multi-billion dollar defense budget and some of the best engineers on the planet?

> What do you get when you have a multi-billion dollar defense budget and some of the best engineers on the planet? A huge waste.

I don't think 80 years of global peace and safe international trade have been a huge waste.
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