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Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by almenon »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #145
fathyb wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> understand user pain points with the UX. why were people using third party apps? Mostly ads, are you going to remove that? How are you going to explain the revenue loss to the board? > invest in some PR or similar to change peoples view of what Reddit is They already do that, maybe you'd like to increase the PR budget? It might be tricky with the ad revenue loss. > try to understand why users like Twitter how Reddi…

> Mostly ads, are you going to remove that? How are you going to explain the revenue loss to the board? Since launch "new reddit" has been broken to the point where the page crashes if you copy and paste text in the comment textarea. You need a hard reload of the page to restore it, and then you lose your comment. It's been what, 5 years now? I think it's safe to assume that nobody working on reddit's UX actually use…

I've never had that bug, although I'm on chrome.

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Post by rglullis »

piaste wrote: post #66
rglullis wrote: post #29

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Unfortunately, this shows how much the people that keep complaining about Elon Musk or Zuckerberg really should not be listened to . People suddenly do not care that much about privacy if it costs them anything or brings some inconvenience. I keep running https://communick.com because I am stubborn and because I can afford to, but honestly I've pretty much have given up hope that the basic services (Mastodon, Matrix)…

> I keep running https://communick.com because I am stubborn and because I can afford to, but honestly I've pretty much have given up hope that the basic services (Mastodon, Matrix) will ever reach enough users to be able to pay for themselves. I have a faint hope that mobile hardware, software, and networking may eventually improve enough that federated communication nodes could run directly off the clients themselv…

We can do that since the late 90's. Skype was p2p and worked very well.

The problem is social, not technical. A p2p network will have problem with reputation and moderation. Only the super technical people will bother to deal with trying fighting scammers and trolls. The only alternative would be something pay-to-play to make it costly, but then those people paying will also want the conveniences and benefits provided by a system with some central authority.

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Post by tasty_freeze »

slantaclaus wrote: post #241
llampx wrote: post #10

Every social network goes through this. You used to be able to access Facebook via other front-ends as well, same with Twitter. This will cut down drastically on my reddit usage, and for that I am thankful. I don't have the Facebook or Twitter apps on my phone, and only use them from Firefox in Private mode when I do get the urge to check them.

Reddit has become toxic. Deleting the app off my phone has really helped with my emotional health

Reddit is sprawling. There are thousands of non-political subreddits. Yeah, if you are following the default feed and reading r/politics, or any of the drama subreddits, you are going to have a bad time.

Are you curious about what information is being sent through your house between 10KHz and 6GHz? Curious what your water meter is broadcasting to the neighborhood? https://www.reddit.com/r/RTLSDR/

Feel like some short videos of animals being adorable? https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/ (or any of the related subreddits: https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/wiki/relatedsubreddits/)

Want to find out about things in your city? eg, https://www.reddit.com/r/Austin/

Into plants? https://www.reddit.com/r/plants/

Play guitar or are thinking about it? https://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by 6D794163636F756 »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #36
tremere wrote: post #8

Reddit is past its expiration date anyway and I'm surprised no one has created a challenger site. Perhaps this was due to Reddit's friendliness toward programmatic access but it seems they are taking that away. This is a good opportunity to create a new community, and essentially take back messaging from the corporations (let's be real about what reddit is) and put it back into the hands of the people.

There have been challengers, but they're always swarmed by undesirable vagrants kicked off of reddit.

Folding ideas has a video on vidme that goes into this. A competitor that can't sell itself on features will inevitably gain traction most with those banned from the original platform. Currently that means a new platform will have very angry, very extreme voices. That is a terrible way to start a platform.

Here is the video: https://youtu.be/r3snVCRo_bI

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Post by raydev »

bazmattaz wrote: post #21
tremere wrote: post #8

Reddit is past its expiration date anyway and I'm surprised no one has created a challenger site. Perhaps this was due to Reddit's friendliness toward programmatic access but it seems they are taking that away. This is a good opportunity to create a new community, and essentially take back messaging from the corporations (let's be real about what reddit is) and put it back into the hands of the people.

I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily past it’s expiration date. It’s ranked 6th most trafficked sites in the US. I do think that Reddit could do with a massive overhaul. If I was ceo tomorrow I would; - Install a bunch of new teams to focus on solving real problems for users - understand user pain points with the UX. why were people using third party apps? And fix the experience. Invest in better mobile apps - invest in s…

> understand user pain points with the UX. why were people using third party apps?

Would actually act on this info if you found out that people using third party apps were a single digit percentage of total users and decreasing over time?

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Post by TheCapn »

tayo42 wrote: post #290
Workaccount2 wrote: post #206

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Everyone here is shitting on it, but to me it looks like it accomplished exactly what reddit wanted, and was wildly successful at doing so. Reddit very successfully moved away from being the techy nerd basement dweller site to becoming a trendy young "normie" people site. Dumb everything down to shoot for the lowest common denominator, maximizing the size of your target demographic. So hiring someone who probably lov…

I don't like the phrase normie but that makes sense. I feel the topics on their have gotten less interesting. Especially in stuff like travel and cooking. I used to really like the travel content on their but it feels useless lately. It just seems to basic and low effort.

That goes for practically any low-barrier-to-entry common interest topic.

Reddit lives and dies by the moderation. Communities with very strict moderation often get a lot of flack for not allowing the low effort drivel. Communities that "let the votes decide" are overrun with low effort memes, waves of "DAE ?" and repost after repost. Often times to have a truly unique and useful experience with the site you need to manage your own content moderation with blocks/filters/etc. This is why there's a lot of inertia to the 3rd party apps and plugins we use, because seeing those as on the chopping block means we're going back to a wild forest of low effort dredge.

If Reddit Is Fun, RES, or old. gets killed off I'm going to leave the site. It will absolutely be difficult, but it will be for the best. I avoid certain subs that are massively popular because they mostly play on the ragebait engagement or outright ignore core issues solved by the moderation. Having that put back to the forefront of my experience will feel like re-opening Facebook or signing up for Twitter. No thanks.

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Post by 23B1 »

thfuran wrote: post #203
23B1 wrote: post #107

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It’s not the only path it’s just the easiest in the short term. One concept that tech companies seem to have completely forgotten is brand equity. They will squander long-term reputation for short term gains due to, as you said, downward pressure from investors - which in itself isn’t a bad thing, but they’re sacrificing long term gains for short term ones. The solution here would be to have mature/smarter/more savvy…

>which in itself isn’t a bad thing, How is that not a bad thing in and of itself? Squandering reputation is accomplished by doing bad things.

I meant downward pressure from investors as not a bad thing.

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Post by WorldPeas »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #245
WorldPeas wrote: post #214

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it's probably either matrix or revolt, however I'd say matrix is the more mature/stable of the two

Funny how this reply also makes sense if you don't know that "discord", "matrix" and "revolt" are used as brand names here.

funnier yet because matrix's old name used to be riot so it would be "riot or revolt". They really like their violent names don't they. Whatever happened to subtle names like teamspeak or mumble

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Post by sphars »

Macha wrote: post #74
sphars wrote: post #38

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Like nitter, there is Teddit and Libreddit, which are both alternative (read-only) frontends for reddit Teddit: https://codeberg.org/teddit/teddit Libreddit: https://github.com/libreddit/libreddit

Both however use the public Reddit API, unlike Nitter which does page scraping. So they'll need significant updates to work past July 1st.

This is true, both will be SOL come July. There is some discussion going on in Libreddit for solutions in https://github.com/libreddit/libreddit/issues/785

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Post by yellow_postit »

jerf wrote: post #159

Why should the apps have to pay? Why can't reddit provide a paid version that allows you to access the APIs, which the external apps can then use? You already have to log in to them anyhow so it's not like you'd need an extra API key or anything. $20/year is probably an order of magnitude more then they make on ads served to me. The weirdest thing about the ad economy to me isn't that it exists, but as I've banged on…

Reddit likely needs ads to justify its VC valuation. That means no apps that can bypass ads or change the display and (likely) more heavily redacted brand unsafe content (esp porn). Hoping they learned from Tumbr and others though. There are some niche subreddits I really enjoy and don’t want to go back to a world of disparate vBulletin sites.
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