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Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Dupe with multiple submissions, for example, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36141083 (1279 comments) Please submitters, check before you submit.

That submission is very different. This story looks at wider effects and implications.

Subtracting external quoted links, the entire story is 4 paragraphs. It's just a wrapper around those links.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

It's the enshittification [1] process. There is no going back. [1] https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/

ahem, the original link is here:

https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

How do you use the site roughly? Maybe it’s optimised for another workflow that’s more mainstream?

I follow subreddits related to topics I'm interested in and I scroll through posts looking for interesting things. I then read the post/click the link and read comments and maybe make a comment once in a while.

I'd imagine that's quite mainstream, no?

(Of course I use old.reddit or a third-party client.)

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would just be "better" to call the private/internal APIs that reddit's clients use themselves. This is more or less what Nitter does for providing alternate twitter frontend https://github.com/zedeus/nitter

Like nitter, there is Teddit and Libreddit, which are both alternative (read-only) frontends for reddit Teddit: https://codeberg.org/teddit/teddit Libreddit: https://github.com/libreddit/libreddit

Both however use the public Reddit API, unlike Nitter which does page scraping. So they'll need significant updates to work past July 1st.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Probably they should have found a way to require third party apps to display their ads.

This is basically lose/lose for everyone. API clients would be able to identify ads in the feed and just not show them. "High-profile" apps will be required to show them at risk of Reddit terminating their access, but the long tail will just ignore them. Reddit and advertisers won't get the same "audience measurement" analytics data, and third parties I imagine would be pretty reluctant to dump some privacy-invading…

> API clients would be able to identify ads in the feed and just not show them.

Meh. Serve ads as JS chunks, measure views; if things don't tally up between api requests and ad hits, you have a word with the developer. There aren't that many Reddit apps with significant amounts of users.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Back to USENET (which Reddit is a weird copy of) again, I suppose. The best part about Reddit are the small, topically-focused communities — those are going to have a hard time finding new homes, given how anti-community, anti-user-generated-content, & resistant to discovery (and much of that is on the search engines) most sites are these days.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you use the site roughly? Maybe it’s optimised for another workflow that’s more mainstream?

I follow subreddits related to topics I'm interested in and I scroll through posts looking for interesting things. I then read the post/click the link and read comments and maybe make a comment once in a while. I'd imagine that's quite mainstream, no? (Of course I use old.reddit or a third-party client.)

I think they want you to use it like people use Instagram. Endless scrolling, endless engagement

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

1. Reddit isn’t a non-profit. I’m not sure why it’s user base doesn’t seem to understand this. They have to make UI changes to make money. It’s either that or everyone pays for subscriptions. 2. The AI threat is real. It’s not even remotely fair that the large tech players of the world get to train their models on others content for cheap. It’s sad what’s happening to Apollo but they need to beef with Microsoft and G…

I understand that some people think that these changes will "make them more money", but I don't think that you have to destroy the UI to do that.

In fact making the UI garbage will chase away users and will make them less money in the long-run, or maybe even run the company into the ground if people starts to migrate to some alternative with non-sucky UI.

There's also nothing about the UI that's related to AI.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

How do you use the site roughly? Maybe it’s optimised for another workflow that’s more mainstream?

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