I don't use the new experience or the app intentionally. It's just clunkier and feels slow. Been an Apollo user for years now. If this means the end of Apollo, I just wont use reddit on my phone. It's that bad.
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#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
Despite it's flaws, HN has a far superior user experience compared to Reddit. It's not even comparable.
So? I wan't comparing HN with Reddit. I meant that HN is very popular without having an amazing user experience, specially on mobile.
HN is fine on mobile. It’s just text anyway. It is easy to reflow text.
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#203Serious question, possibly naive: how many of Reddit’s UX decisions come back to pressure from investors to make good on the $1.3B they’ve raised? Is every web product with users and influence obligated to raise as much as possible and grow to a size where they start chasing ad revenue no matter what it does to their product and its users? I’m sure that running a product at Reddit’s scale requires serious money, mone…
It’s not the only path it’s just the easiest in the short term. One concept that tech companies seem to have completely forgotten is brand equity. They will squander long-term reputation for short term gains due to, as you said, downward pressure from investors - which in itself isn’t a bad thing, but they’re sacrificing long term gains for short term ones. The solution here would be to have mature/smarter/more savvy…
>which in itself isn’t a bad thing,
How is that not a bad thing in and of itself? Squandering reputation is accomplished by doing bad things.
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#204The app is complete garbage, and the dark patterns on their mobile webpage are insidious. If I have to wait to go to my desktop to see something on reddit, most likely I’ll forget about it and not visit at all. Or I’ll go through the old.reddit on mobile which isn’t great. But it’s only a matter of time until they remove old.reddit. Perhaps web scrapers can come to the rescue in some way? Maybe a self-hosted instance…
Pushshift already backed down. https://old.reddit.com/r/pushshift/comments/13w6j20/advancin...
Scrappers will be under the same constraints as everyone under html. The html site is hostile to exploration unless you pay the API.
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#205Back to USENET (which Reddit is a weird copy of) again, I suppose. The best part about Reddit are the small, topically-focused communities — those are going to have a hard time finding new homes, given how anti-community, anti-user-generated-content, & resistant to discovery (and much of that is on the search engines) most sites are these days.
I never really got in to USENET, being a child trapped in the Prodigy and AOL and CompuServe Internet a little too long, but as an adult who is planning for Reddit to hit the fan, I am unsure of the best way of discovering newsgroups that would interest me. I have a handful of subs that I follow, but I wouldn't know how to find the equivalent of r/homelab. I would add quickly that I am aware of the ability one would…
I had newsgroups access over twenty years ago with my university, and even then it felt like a ghost town.
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#206I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…
I know the person who was in charge of the redesign. This may sound unbelievable, but she was not a reddit user prior to working at reddit or being put in charge of the redesign. Really nice person, but they did a terrible job.
Everyone here is shitting on it, but to me it looks like it accomplished exactly what reddit wanted, and was wildly successful at doing so.
Reddit very successfully moved away from being the techy nerd basement dweller site to becoming a trendy young "normie" people site. Dumb everything down to shoot for the lowest common denominator, maximizing the size of your target demographic.
So hiring someone who probably loved instagram, facebook, pinterest, tumblr, but never used reddit (but had likely been to the site perhaps a few times before) is exactly who they wanted to redesign the site.
IIRC something like 95% of users are using the official app and/or the new website. And reddit has exploded in popularity in recent years.
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#207Reddit is past its expiration date anyway and I'm surprised no one has created a challenger site. Perhaps this was due to Reddit's friendliness toward programmatic access but it seems they are taking that away. This is a good opportunity to create a new community, and essentially take back messaging from the corporations (let's be real about what reddit is) and put it back into the hands of the people.
A news aggregate site would be really cool. With news split to categories.
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would not be willing to pay reddit for the opposite reason. They are not doing an adequate job giving moderators proper tools or removing bigoted commenters who are participating in bad faith. I reported multiple comments calling black people "subhuman" in various ways, or the "clever" variations of "stop noticing things" that Nazis write. It's lucky if reddit gives them even a time out for publicly posting their r…
If you post the n-word on reddit it gets removed immediately - no matter what the context was.
Oh, good, that will fix all of it.
The last I was on reddit, I was moderating a small subreddit. I had to maintain a regular expression for all the various ways people would write slurs so the poor-quality automated tool would remove comments. There wasn't anything at the administrator level that would remove that or any of the people when they are writing it to be racist.
There was a bot you could use to check a user's comment history for hard-Rs. Useful for trying to determine if someone is unintentionally ignorant and might be open to an explanation, or deliberately ignorant and putting on a temporary facade to waste everyone's time and energy. That tool is something that did get banned, for reasons.
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#209I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…
I know the person who was in charge of the redesign. This may sound unbelievable, but she was not a reddit user prior to working at reddit or being put in charge of the redesign. Really nice person, but they did a terrible job.
Credible, from which facts are known. Still unbelievable because it plays into my suspicions too perfectly.
There exists this entire class of business theory now based on the principle of hatred towards the users. Think about the products you actually like and purchase/use... how many of those companies' behaviors are completely inexplicable unless they hate you and want to punish you for buying their stuff?
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
I do, and it's fine. Not ideal (things like the vote arrows are hard to hit with fingers, as the most egregious example), but still vastly better than the average "mobile" website. I'm typing this comment on a third-party app (Hacki) I'm trying out for the first time, so that's another option.
The vote arrows -- if that's an essential part of the UI, why is it so bad? And text sizing for mobile varies greatly by mobile device -- why?
On iOS at least you can just change the text size in safari. HN respects the user setting. Sites that try to overdo their UI tend to screw this up somehow.
The arrows could be better, but they aren’t actually an essential part of the site from an individual user point of view. They are there to help HN. If they decided that getting this help from mobile users isn’t a priority, that’s fine.