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Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by nottorp »

kevincox wrote: post #111
nottorp wrote: post #45

Isn't the best way to open old.reddit.com in a desktop browser?

When you are at a computer yes. But sometimes I am on my phone and neither the old UI or the new UI are acceptable. I slightly prefer the new UI on mobile but it definitely sucks.

Well, I generally don't read anything on mobile unless I need a piece of info right now.

Besides the screen having either too much or too little info, depending on if it's designed for the desktop or for mobile, it's usually unsafe since you can't run uBlock Origin on the Apple browser...

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Post by commandlinefan »

zeroego wrote: post #156
lawn wrote: post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

I know the person who was in charge of the redesign. This may sound unbelievable, but she was not a reddit user prior to working at reddit or being put in charge of the redesign. Really nice person, but they did a terrible job.

> she was not a reddit user

PHB: "We hired a new CTO with no experience in our industry, because we want somebody who doesn't know what can't be done!"

Wally: "Boy, I went the wrong way on my resume"

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by Workaccount2 »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #242
seydor wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is news to me ( i still use the old site but i dont see a lot of old people) I think reddit's demographic still is young , and has always been so .

I'm not convinced, but that's anecdotal from being a millennial and frequent Reddit user myself, and seeing lots of "As a 40/50/60/70 some year old" comments.

Because when someone says "As an old person, I agree that the young people are right" it will get 1,000 upvotes in an hour.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by Narushia »

So, basically any kind of customization to the Reddit experience is now limited to browser extensions and userscripts that scrape and modify the website itself. On Android, this means using Firefox. On iOS, I don’t think there’s much choice. Unless someone creates a Reddit app that is actually just a web view wrapper bundled with the necessary client-side scripts.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by interestica »

lapcat wrote: post #195
interestica wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's literally the link quoted by "The creator of Apollo has done the math, and says" So? The headline of the submission lacks meaning and provides no information. You would have to click into the link to realize wha the discussion is about. > You're missing the point, which is that this submission is just the latest in a long string of duplicate submissions, some of which have already been marked [dupe] by the mod…

> The headline of the submission lacks meaning and provides no information. You would have to click into the link to realize wha the discussion is about. Nonetheless: "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > My point is that this article sets up a different (and valid) discussion Different? No. The…

> Nonetheless: "Please submit the original source.

What's the 'original' source? One developer's specific problem with the Reddit API policy change?

> The discussion is the basically same as before.

Disagree. For one, it's active and on the main page. And, easier to jump in.

> No, that's actually contrary to HN policy:

That's for reposts. Our thread here is arguing whether or not it's a repost/dupe. I believe it is not.

> the other developer's link in the Kotaku article was also already submitted to HN

Ok? And with no discussion? But, again, this post puts it together, provides links to those sources, and tries to add some context.

You're saying this submission should not exist: "Please submitters, check before you submit." but I disagree and think it's valuable for providing more information, links to related content, and a place for new discussion.

Why does this post remain on the front page if it is so clearly a 'dupe'? Why has the headline been updated by HN?

Heck, you've even made me think that second-day update posts should be encouraged on HN. First-day posts tend to lack a lot of critical information and a lot of knee-jerk/hot take reactions. As of now, has anyone from Reddit come out to refute or clarify the claims of the third party devs?

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Post by Sebb767 »

twic wrote: post #115
dredmorbius wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you point to specific deficiencies of HN?

No pagination, as mentioned. No way to keep up with new comments on a post (Reddit doesn't have this either). No notifications on reply, so it's difficult to get answers to clarifying questions (/threads helps but isn't it). Ever-increasing indentation makes deep threads hard to read. Generally hard to read and hard to click on mobile. None fatal, but also none particularly tough to fix!

> No notifications on reply

I'm pretty sure this is intentional in order to avoid shallow discussions and not grab too much attention. I actually like this, but I agree with you that it can make it harder to get answers sometimes and you do miss some replies, on especially older comments.

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Post by jamil7 »

lawn wrote: post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

> I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI.

One of the third-party apps effected is Apollo, which is the vision of a single, talented iOS developer/designer who isn't beholden to investors and the whims of every other team and committee within a large org.

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Post by jerf »

shmatt wrote: post #215
jerf wrote: post #159

Why should the apps have to pay? Why can't reddit provide a paid version that allows you to access the APIs, which the external apps can then use? You already have to log in to them anyhow so it's not like you'd need an extra API key or anything. $20/year is probably an order of magnitude more then they make on ads served to me. The weirdest thing about the ad economy to me isn't that it exists, but as I've banged on…

Are you really clicking on that many ads?

I'm just dividing revenue by number of users, and honestly trying to be a bit generous as a ballpark estimate. Most users are probably even less per year.

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Post by NotYourLawyer »

jghn wrote: post #152
rchaud wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the contrary, Reddit is one of the most useful sites out there. With Google search nearing total uselessness for local information, using "site:reddit.com" is almost obligatory. None of the real value of Reddit is coming from the parts of it that resemble Twitter or 4Chan.

Count me as another person who frequently adds site:reddit.com to my google searches. I realize there's a lot of astroturfing that goes on there, but it's still useful when I want to get a pulse from real people. Also count me as another person who abhors the "new" UI. Every once in a while I get bounced out of the old UI and I don't know how people do it. The old UI isn't my perfect UI but it's darn near close to it…

Redditors are full of shit. So often, I’ll see a question where I actually know the answer, and the most popular responses are dead wrong.

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Post by bee_rider »

WorldPeas wrote: post #214
bee_rider wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I’m just old, but I don’t know what the inevitable pre-enshittified competition to Discord is. Do they exist yet? Discord is still at the beginning of the endhittification path so I guess it is not a super pressing issue.

it's probably either matrix or revolt, however I'd say matrix is the more mature/stable of the two

It will be interesting to see what the enshitification process looks like for distributed/open source chat programs.
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