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Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by rchaud »

josephg wrote: post #178
rchaud wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the contrary, Reddit is one of the most useful sites out there. With Google search nearing total uselessness for local information, using "site:reddit.com" is almost obligatory. None of the real value of Reddit is coming from the parts of it that resemble Twitter or 4Chan.

On mobile you can’t read reddit comment threads unless you install their official app. I hate that Google surfaces reddit threads since the site itself often doesn’t contain the information indexed by the search.

Check the settings of your Reddit client app. I set mine to open links from reddit.com and old.reddit.com. So when I click on a search result, it pulls up the page in the app.

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Post by TheHypnotist »

lawn wrote: post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

Apollo's UI on iPhone is arguably worse than the Reddit apps (which I have no real complaint with other than the annoying video bar being too close to the bottom). The webpage is in fact abysmal unless you use old.

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Post by sorenjan »

distances wrote: post #122
lawn wrote: post #108

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What app do you use?

I'm also interested. I'm still using Materialistic, but it's not even in the Play Store any more so I would like to find something maintained.

I recently switched from Materialistic to Harmonic, and I like it.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simon.harm...

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Post by WorldPeas »

bee_rider wrote: post #172
doublerabbit wrote: post #110

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Could you apply this to Discord currently? As in they are in the beginning phase of the enshittifcation metamorphism? With the new soundboards, change of usernames and the likes, it's feels like it's starting the cycle.

Maybe I’m just old, but I don’t know what the inevitable pre-enshittified competition to Discord is. Do they exist yet? Discord is still at the beginning of the endhittification path so I guess it is not a super pressing issue.

it's probably either matrix or revolt, however I'd say matrix is the more mature/stable of the two

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Post by shmatt »

jerf wrote: post #159

Why should the apps have to pay? Why can't reddit provide a paid version that allows you to access the APIs, which the external apps can then use? You already have to log in to them anyhow so it's not like you'd need an extra API key or anything. $20/year is probably an order of magnitude more then they make on ads served to me. The weirdest thing about the ad economy to me isn't that it exists, but as I've banged on…

Are you really clicking on that many ads?

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Post by [deleted] »

m-p-3 wrote: post #89
madeofpalk wrote: post #16

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This is basically lose/lose for everyone. API clients would be able to identify ads in the feed and just not show them. "High-profile" apps will be required to show them at risk of Reddit terminating their access, but the long tail will just ignore them. Reddit and advertisers won't get the same "audience measurement" analytics data, and third parties I imagine would be pretty reluctant to dump some privacy-invading…

Or skip the ads problem on third-party apps altogether by requiring the use of Reddit Premium to use third-party apps. That way reddit gets paid, you avoid having to deal with ads and the developers don't have to absorb an astronomical and unreasonable invoice for API access.

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Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by rchaud »

thx-2718 wrote: post #160
rchaud wrote: post #138

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On the contrary, Reddit is one of the most useful sites out there. With Google search nearing total uselessness for local information, using "site:reddit.com" is almost obligatory. None of the real value of Reddit is coming from the parts of it that resemble Twitter or 4Chan.

I would posit 'was' one of the most useful sites. Like OP said there's certainly niche subreddits. What grew Reddit for me was the informed comments that were generally related to the discussion and often brought more light to a topic than the posted article. With voices leaving Reddit the point or appeal of it is gone. For me at least.

I've been on Reddit for over 10 years. It's a search engine for me now, I've simply aged out of most of the discussions on there. I'm fine with that, because it's still useful for search queries like "Things to do in [city_name]".

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Post by [deleted] »

toyg wrote: post #75
madeofpalk wrote: post #16

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This is basically lose/lose for everyone. API clients would be able to identify ads in the feed and just not show them. "High-profile" apps will be required to show them at risk of Reddit terminating their access, but the long tail will just ignore them. Reddit and advertisers won't get the same "audience measurement" analytics data, and third parties I imagine would be pretty reluctant to dump some privacy-invading…

> API clients would be able to identify ads in the feed and just not show them. Meh. Serve ads as JS chunks, measure views; if things don't tally up between api requests and ad hits, you have a word with the developer. There aren't that many Reddit apps with significant amounts of users.

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Post by laci37 »

lawn wrote: post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

IMO old reddit it atrociously bad for self posts and images as well. I would not have used it without Reddit Enhancement Suite.

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Post by waboremo »

jghn wrote: post #152
rchaud wrote: post #138

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On the contrary, Reddit is one of the most useful sites out there. With Google search nearing total uselessness for local information, using "site:reddit.com" is almost obligatory. None of the real value of Reddit is coming from the parts of it that resemble Twitter or 4Chan.

Count me as another person who frequently adds site:reddit.com to my google searches. I realize there's a lot of astroturfing that goes on there, but it's still useful when I want to get a pulse from real people. Also count me as another person who abhors the "new" UI. Every once in a while I get bounced out of the old UI and I don't know how people do it. The old UI isn't my perfect UI but it's darn near close to it…

Astroturfing is the least of the problems; most threads are filled with fake experts (of a very specific demographic - usually very young, american, male, etc) projecting.

This is fine if you consciously remember this while browsing, but when you start to believe that you can get a pulse from "real people" on Reddit, you've already lost the game. Remember: to even post a comment on Reddit already puts you in a niche group of people who use Reddit.

This becomes self-reinforcing as well, everyone else will feel alienated even if they do get over the hurdle of commenting, while those who fit the aforementioned mold will feel at home. Can't get much of a pulse, unless you specifically want to know what a very certain demographic feels once you filter out all the fanboyism and astroturfing.

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