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Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Reddit Permabanned me (13 year old 450k karma account) after I went after crypto scammers, calling out the scam with details etc. I got tons of coins or whatever gifted to me and even more thanks and way to go from users. Evidently reddit considered it harassment (of the plain as day scammers) and won't budge after an appeal. So, f reddit.

Reddit admins are paid by scammers

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but what they've left Reddit with as a differentiator are the communities And I'm honestly not very fond of how the communities on reddit work. Sure, there is some overlap between the peoples on different subreddits, but there is little 'community' across subreddits and it feels very different to the 'good old' discussion boards that cover a very general topic and then have many more specific subsections. I'm espec…

The "hive mind" effect is also much more pronounced than on traditional forums, sometimes bordering on being creepy. Not sure if it's caused by power-hungry mods, the upvote/downvote dynamics or political polarisation, but you can often quickly make out specific "opinions" that are somehow magically shared by everyone posting in a particular subreddit. The UX also actively supports this by de-emphasizing individual u…

I check the fantasy football sub from time to time and the hive mind is definitely a factor there. If you post an opinion that goes against the grain, you're likely to get aggressively dogpiled with downvotes and called a moron in the replies. Reddit really isn't an enjoyable place to post.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Reddit Permabanned me (13 year old 450k karma account) after I went after crypto scammers, calling out the scam with details etc. I got tons of coins or whatever gifted to me and even more thanks and way to go from users. Evidently reddit considered it harassment (of the plain as day scammers) and won't budge after an appeal. So, f reddit.

Funny, something very similar happened to me. 15 year old account, 500k comment karma, called out crypto scam - I was temp banned for 3 days for harassment, and multiple accounts reported my posts for "risk of suicide". Then like 2 days after my ban ended, I made a fairly innocuous comment on a video of a man falling down a mountain after immediately failing his mountainbike stunt - and was perma banned. My comment w…

I know I'm by far not the only person to be banned for calling out crypto scams. At this point I wouldn't doubt a good deal of the scams are run from inside Reddit. Comments calling out scams often get downvoted 100x or more within seconds. Only a bot farm can do that. Any reasonable admin could see this and ban all the down voting accounts and the ones that upvote the post 100x as well but no, they ban the people getting downvoted for calling out the filthy scammer scum.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but what they've left Reddit with as a differentiator are the communities And I'm honestly not very fond of how the communities on reddit work. Sure, there is some overlap between the peoples on different subreddits, but there is little 'community' across subreddits and it feels very different to the 'good old' discussion boards that cover a very general topic and then have many more specific subsections. I'm espec…

The "hive mind" effect is also much more pronounced than on traditional forums, sometimes bordering on being creepy. Not sure if it's caused by power-hungry mods, the upvote/downvote dynamics or political polarisation, but you can often quickly make out specific "opinions" that are somehow magically shared by everyone posting in a particular subreddit. The UX also actively supports this by de-emphasizing individual u…

Ye the same-thinking is creepy. Many subs are like sects. I believe there is a huge manipulation ongoing on the popular subs. In a natural forum posters don't agree to the extent they do on Reddit.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Well, looks like this is the end of any social media use for me. Reddit was already hanging by a thread for me. Not being able to use Apollo for this will be the last nail in the coffin.

Same. I only find Reddit tolerable because of Apollo. The official Reddit app pales in comparison. I hope they can come to some sort of agreement or find a way to acquihire the Apollo developer (though that might kill the app with crappy features as well).

Another happy Apollo user here. Reddit is painful without it.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Can someone give me a couple reasons why it does not make sense to buy Apollo out, and make it the default iOS app? It is currently maintained by one excellent developer, is featured by the Apple App Store for design... what's the downside?

I'm having trouble remembering right now but I think that's how they got a prior app. Or maybe Twitter. Or Gmail getting an iOS app with amazing search... These firms hirebuy (like acquihire but more money) a single dev with an amazing tool, and not long after the tool is terrible and the dev is out of there.

Reddit bought Alien Blue, which functionally was the Apollo equivalent in 2014, with the intention of using it as their new official app.

Instead they jerked around the developer, ditched all the code, and shut down the app in 2016.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Please Reddit, just let us use a web browser to access your web site. Users shouldn’t be forced so aggressively into using an ‘app’ - whether the official one or a 3rd-party app - when mobile web browsers are so very capable.

Ever since learning the phrase "enshittification" [1] from Cory Doctorow it becomes more apparent when it happens around you. I wonder if there is a "fediverse" for something like forums? I can never get into mastodon because it's not like forums and conversations between people are quite hard if you don't follow them. [1] https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/

enshittification might be more like the ship of theseus. The original reddit was started by an interesting group of people with different ideas and ideals than who is there now.

The people making up reddit might have been replaced with completely different people - with different motivations, behaviors, and expectations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Seems to me like they priced the API to cash in on the LLM training data gold rush, and as a side-effect it makes third-party user apps infeasible. Oops.

They priced the API for LLM training and killing third-party apps is just a great bonus. If they wanted to retain third-party apps while protecting their revenue stream they could have simply created a new free API including all the ads. They deliberately chose to kill these apps.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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An average Apollo user is causing 344 API requests per day? That's a lot! I wonder if Apollo should prioritise reducing that number. I'd bet anything there is a lot of low hanging fruit to be had with aggressive caching and general tidying up.

That is exactly a Reddit admins response, and I can't even begin to process how irresponsible, unprofessional and downright moronic of a take that is. Other apps are around that ballpark, and that's every before considering that Apollo users tend to be heavily power users. Over 7000 moderators of 20k+ users subs for starters, means a lot of requests.

Sorry if you think this take is "moronic" but I've gone through the exercise of cutting back usage on chatty APIs several times and it's real, meaningful work that makes a difference.

I'm not a reddit admin. Please try to engage in good faith on this website. I'd suggest reading the "In Comments" section of the hacker news guidelines if you're unsure.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Yeah, I'm out. I'm not using Reddit on its own app nor the browser. The app is huge and clunky. The browser is turtle slow. Neither gives me the granularity that Apollo gives me. The swipe controls are slick and so are the filters. If I can't consume it with Apollo then it ain't worth it to me. And I already paid for the app. I refuse to pay more for something that is not a necessity. Apollo would have to become a su…

Old.reddit.com isn't too bad

Yeah. Can nowadays also be toggled in the settings so you don't have to setup any redirect extension. Which makes me hopeful that it might not be going away but I'm not holding my breath.

Without old Reddit (and third-party apps on mobile) I'd stop using Reddit completely, I have zero doubts about that.

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