Well, looks like this is the end of any social media use for me. Reddit was already hanging by a thread for me. Not being able to use Apollo for this will be the last nail in the coffin.
Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
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Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#172Please Reddit, just let us use a web browser to access your web site. Users shouldn’t be forced so aggressively into using an ‘app’ - whether the official one or a 3rd-party app - when mobile web browsers are so very capable.
Have you tried using the 'old' reddit? Replacing 'www.' with 'old.' will move you over to the old style of reddit and will keep you there when clicking through links.
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#173Please Reddit, just let us use a web browser to access your web site. Users shouldn’t be forced so aggressively into using an ‘app’ - whether the official one or a 3rd-party app - when mobile web browsers are so very capable.
Ever since learning the phrase "enshittification" [1] from Cory Doctorow it becomes more apparent when it happens around you. I wonder if there is a "fediverse" for something like forums? I can never get into mastodon because it's not like forums and conversations between people are quite hard if you don't follow them. [1] https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/
Something like that could probably be built on top of the matrix protocol, I'm not aware of anything concrete though.
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#174Yeah, I'm out.
I'm not using Reddit on its own app nor the browser.
The app is huge and clunky.
The browser is turtle slow.
Neither gives me the granularity that Apollo gives me. The swipe controls are slick and so are the filters.
If I can't consume it with Apollo then it ain't worth it to me. And I already paid for the app. I refuse to pay more for something that is not a necessity.
Apollo would have to become a subscription to be sustainable and in a time where everybody wants to make a subscription out of everything I, on the other hand, am in a shut down everything that is not essential mode.
This is not essential. Neither is Netflix. Neither is Disney Plus. I'm looking for more to cut. And while, i can currently afford all this, that might not always be the case and I'm sick of subscriptions that just are just leeching out of our $$$ our bank accounts month to month and that eventually add up.
Also, I've been considering cutting back on toxic social media and maybe this is just the right push I need.
Oh well. Had a good run.
*shrugs*
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#175I blocked the reddit.com domain from all of my devices a few weeks ago, because until recently I didn't feel like I could keep my finger on the pulse of "The Internet" without Reddit. That's no longer the case. Google's "For You" gets me my niche subject-specific content, Google News/Memeorandum (and its sibling sites)/Apple News gives me the mainstream media perspectives, HN (and maybe Bluesky occasionally) my urge…
> but what they've left Reddit with as a differentiator are the communities.
Yeah, I pretty much only use reddit for a few game communities, unfortunately with this change I suspect more and more people will move to discord. It's pretty annoying, but I suspect I'll have to eventually cave and join them when they finally kill old.reddit.com.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ever since learning the phrase "enshittification" [1] from Cory Doctorow it becomes more apparent when it happens around you. I wonder if there is a "fediverse" for something like forums? I can never get into mastodon because it's not like forums and conversations between people are quite hard if you don't follow them. [1] https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/
Something like that could probably be built on top of the matrix protocol, I'm not aware of anything concrete though.
https://www.discourse.org/ with a discovery mechanism? Would be cool to get Keybase out of Zoom to use for pki identity across various communities. Seems like all the primitives are there, just a lot of grind to do it.
Users->Discovery Mechanism->Topics->Threads with all of the trimmings.
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ever since learning the phrase "enshittification" [1] from Cory Doctorow it becomes more apparent when it happens around you. I wonder if there is a "fediverse" for something like forums? I can never get into mastodon because it's not like forums and conversations between people are quite hard if you don't follow them. [1] https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/
check out Lemmy https://join-lemmy.org/
Last I checked the main instance became a haven for US domestic terrorists and like-minded ilk.
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#178Well, looks like this is the end of any social media use for me. Reddit was already hanging by a thread for me. Not being able to use Apollo for this will be the last nail in the coffin.
Same. I only find Reddit tolerable because of Apollo. The official Reddit app pales in comparison.
I hope they can come to some sort of agreement or find a way to acquihire the Apollo developer (though that might kill the app with crappy features as well).
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#179Wow, that price is insane. To me, that's pretty clearly a shot at any competitor apps for Reddit. Purely anti-competitive behavior here, which to me is silly. Let other apps pop up to better serve your users. At the end of the day, they are still your users and you might learn things from the other apps. Who ever came up with that price is looking for short-term profits over user happiness and long-term growth.
The idea that it's anti-competitive to do with your platform what you want is in my mind silly. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from building a reddit clone to compete against reddit besides your ability to attract their users.
It comes off as extremely entitled to think that reddit should supply you with the data created by their platform to do what you want with it.
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#180As soon as Reddit kills RSS feeds it is dead to me.