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Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by mnd999 »

ethbr0 wrote: post #49
mnd999 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't want people training LLMs with their data without paying for it. Blame the AI bros for stealing all their data.

It's not "their" data in the same way that last mile network access isn't "their" (telco's) pipes. If value in a platform comes from third parties choosing to use the service, and those third parties are free to use alternatives, then platforms should be very careful about how greedy they get in exploiting their users. Most of the platform value actually comes from future , continued use.

Maybe, legally it probably is their data but your point still correct, they only have it because people choose to give it to them.

But it doesn’t matter what is, it matters what they think and they’ve got AI cash fomo.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by adastra22 »

thewataccount wrote: post #226
Banbeck wrote: post #171

Well, looks like this is the end of any social media use for me. Reddit was already hanging by a thread for me. Not being able to use Apollo for this will be the last nail in the coffin.

Serious question and I don't mean anything negative - Do you consider HN to be social media? Using it as just a news source seems really valid. And it feels different from other social media platforms because of the focus on full discussions. But surely this still counts as social media? Genuinely asking because I see you made your account just to post this comment - why did you do that? It's not a bad thing (I'm her…

I don’t consider HN a social network anymore than I consider my local news website (which also has comments) to be social media.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #236

Seriously, does anyone think it won't be different with APIs from other vendors... like ChatGPT?

Right now GPT-4 is the clear front-runner. But it could easily be the case that in a few months there will be someone else in the lead. And Claude/Bard are already catching up. What I'm saying is that LLMs are more of a commodity than Reddit is. If one locks out 3rd party developers then another can become the favorite.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

albertopv wrote: post #184
jdminhbg wrote: post #31

> Even if I only kept subscription users, the average Apollo user uses 344 requests per day, which would cost $2.50 per month, which is over double what the subscription currently costs, so I'd be in the red every month. I just don't understand why developers underprice their apps so much. You're talking about an app that people are constantly raving about, and that people use for multiple hours per day. Charge $5/mo…

I spend 5€/month for my mobile phone plan, 40GB data cap. 5€/month for a service extending reddit is quite a lot

Where in the hell you live where that generous mobile plan exists?

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by oh_sigh »

rickreynoldssf wrote: post #194

Reddit Permabanned me (13 year old 450k karma account) after I went after crypto scammers, calling out the scam with details etc. I got tons of coins or whatever gifted to me and even more thanks and way to go from users. Evidently reddit considered it harassment (of the plain as day scammers) and won't budge after an appeal. So, f reddit.

Funny, something very similar happened to me. 15 year old account, 500k comment karma, called out crypto scam - I was temp banned for 3 days for harassment, and multiple accounts reported my posts for "risk of suicide". Then like 2 days after my ban ended, I made a fairly innocuous comment on a video of a man falling down a mountain after immediately failing his mountainbike stunt - and was perma banned. My comment was in response to someone who said something about how brave he was, and I said "It's not brave to throw yourself down a mountain. It's stupid". Anyways, that was enough to get my account permanently banned for "Hate". If that was the standard, I'm not sure how my account made it that long considering I've probably posted worse things than "That was stupid" over the years.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by ohgodplsno »

consumer451 wrote: post #249

Can someone give me a couple reasons why it does not make sense to buy Apollo out, and make it the default iOS app? It is currently maintained by one excellent developer, is featured by the Apple App Store for design... what's the downside?

Sunk costs.

They've worked really hard on making sure their official app is an actual piece of garbage. I am truly impressed at the amount of work it takes to make something that is that bad. People being paid for the existence of that app make me feel good in that no matter how bad I can get, no matter how senile and incompetent I'll become, there'll be a job for me somewhere. Paid absurdly well, too.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by rattus »

galangalalgol wrote: post #211
BlackjackCF wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. I only find Reddit tolerable because of Apollo. The official Reddit app pales in comparison. I hope they can come to some sort of agreement or find a way to acquihire the Apollo developer (though that might kill the app with crappy features as well).

I've always just used the web, is there some reason to use an app for it? I liked it as a place to look for people talking about things I might want to buy. I'm sure it is full of fake comments, but the ones that make verifiable claims for or against are useful.

they're starting to featurewall more actively

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by NineStarPoint »

RoyGBivCap wrote: post #209

Reddit is a sexist, racist, free speech bait & switching website owned by the second richest family on the planet. The sooner it's gone, the better.

The Newhouse family are certainly multibillionaires, but they don’t even crack top 10 richest from what I can tell.
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