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Lyft’s plan to take control of its maps and its future

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Re: Lyft’s plan to take control of its maps and its future

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Post by closeparen »

dylan604 wrote: post #78
londons_explore wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At airports, its often much better to walk just outside the boundary of the airport. Airports often have special rules, pickup fees, etc. Drivers don't want to pay an $8 fee just to make a loss on your journey. As soon as you're a few yards out of the airport, none of that applies and a driver will be happy to take you.

>its often much better to walk just outside the boundary of the airport are you serious? what airports do you visit where you can do this as a suggestion without laughing. It's like telling the freshmen that there's a pool on the school roof. even something as small like a Bob Hope in Burbank would be difficult. Most airports do not consider pedestrian traffic to the edge of their properties. I've done it once at tha…

Before they had ridesharing at Midway, I would ride the first hotel shuttle I could get on and request from its parking lot.

Re: Lyft’s plan to take control of its maps and its future

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Post by labcomputer »

dylan604 wrote: post #121
LynxInLA wrote: post #105

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It is very easy at LAX. You walk about 100 yards across one (admittedly very busy) intersection and get picked up for 1/3 the price. You already have to take a shuttle to even get picked up unless you have a black car, so this adds 5 minutes. It is still annoying if you have luggage. You could also take a shuttle to a local hotel or car rental, but that is breaking some rules.

What 100 yards are you talking about? Stepping out the doors at any terminal at LAX takes you to the parking lot if you walk 100 yards. To get off of airport grounds would take a much significantly longer walk without any pedestrian walkway

The airport boundary is Sepulveda, which is, admittedly, closer to 300 yards from Terminals 1, 7 and 8.

But there is a pedestrian walkway the entire way. With traffic lights at crosswalks and everything.

Re: Lyft’s plan to take control of its maps and its future

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Post by labcomputer »

dylan604 wrote: post #127
sahila wrote: post #115

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Take a shuttle to car rentals or a hotel, and then you'd be out of the airport area; doesn't have to be a "walk" walk.

Most airports have moved to a centralized rental car location that is still inside the airport perimeter, so not sure how this is helping? The ride share algos are still going to recognize you are at the airport and charge you accordingly

Typically the centralized rental car facility is near or at the airport boundary at airports I’m familiar with.

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Post by mulmen »

panarky wrote: post #128
shawabawa3 wrote: post #103

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My assumption was that most drivers are using 3+ different apps, so if they get an Uber request while they're driving a Lyft route they just don't accept it, hence the bouncing around "finding another driver" because all the drivers are already busy

Also, riders are using two or three different apps, so if Uber promises a 2-minute wait and then confirms with a 6-minute wait and Lyft is promising a 3-minute wait, cancel the Uber ride and now that driver is available again.

Doesn’t that incur a cancellation fee?

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Post by tomtheelder »

patrickserrano wrote: post #14

> Ninety-eight percent of drivers who try Lyft’s maps stick with them — rather than switching to Google, Apple, Waze, or any other app. I find this surprising because my personal experience is the exact opposite. At least in NYC, drivers use the Lyft (or Uber) app for managing riders but use a dedicated mapping application for navigating to the destination once you're picked up.

In LA they seem to almost all use the Lyft navigation.

Re: Lyft’s plan to take control of its maps and its future

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Post by mulmen »

labcomputer wrote: post #140
dylan604 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>its often much better to walk just outside the boundary of the airport are you serious? what airports do you visit where you can do this as a suggestion without laughing. It's like telling the freshmen that there's a pool on the school roof. even something as small like a Bob Hope in Burbank would be difficult. Most airports do not consider pedestrian traffic to the edge of their properties. I've done it once at tha…

Off the top of my head: LAX: walking paths and signalized crosswalks get you all the way to the hotels east of Sepulveda, or take the free shuttle to the cell phone lot and order from there. SJC: Cross the parking garage to the bike path and from there cross the street. Or just walk down the bike path ORD, MDW: Free shuttle to the rental car facility, or take the L one stop. MSN: kind of a long walk, but there are si…

When I fly out of Seatac in the summer I park my motorcycle in the employee parking, which is free. Do other airports not offer cheap/free employee parking?

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Post by [deleted] »

ebiester wrote: post #123
ghaff wrote: post #89

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Walking out of an airport of any size (and even many/most smaller commercial airports) is between impossible and taking your life in your hands given that sidewalks/crosswalks/etc. are largely lacking. Most commercial airports just don't contemplate pedestrians walking in and out. It might be possible to walk to East Boston from Logan airport though I'm not sure how--and that's an airport that's basically right in th…

Logan is one of the easiest. You just take the bus to the MBTA stop or the free silver line into Seaport. The convenient public transportation is the reason I rarely take cabs or rideshare to or from Logan.

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Re: Lyft’s plan to take control of its maps and its future

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Post by LynxInLA »

dylan604 wrote: post #121
LynxInLA wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is very easy at LAX. You walk about 100 yards across one (admittedly very busy) intersection and get picked up for 1/3 the price. You already have to take a shuttle to even get picked up unless you have a black car, so this adds 5 minutes. It is still annoying if you have luggage. You could also take a shuttle to a local hotel or car rental, but that is breaking some rules.

What 100 yards are you talking about? Stepping out the doors at any terminal at LAX takes you to the parking lot if you walk 100 yards. To get off of airport grounds would take a much significantly longer walk without any pedestrian walkway

I am talking about the walk from LAXit. This is the parking lot where Uber/Lyft/Taxi pickups are, and you generally have to take a shuttle to get there to begin with.

LAXit is on Sepulveda, but it is safer to cross the street to a parking lot. I'll admit I underestimated the distance. It is closer to 300 yards:

https://goo.gl/maps/DWsk4MSx9HuDJAJz5

Re: Lyft’s plan to take control of its maps and its future

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Post by nneonneo »

Lyft and Uber have been very disappointing at the local airport lately. Lyft pickups from the airport are supposedly cheap but the last time I tried getting one it let me wait for 20 minutes; I eventually gave up and got a taxi.

Uber from the airport regularly surges, usually right after a flight lands, and their surge price puts them well above the price of the taxis that are ready and waiting to pick people up. I’m not even sure why anyone would take an Uber at surge prices - and it’s not like their regular price is that much cheaper than a taxi anyway.

Also, the taxi companies have gradually been getting better at the app game. They’re still a ways off from Uber/Lyft’s usability, but they’re also less likely to be flaky and they never surge.

Re: Lyft’s plan to take control of its maps and its future

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Post by maerF0x0 »

nneonneo wrote: post #149

Lyft and Uber have been very disappointing at the local airport lately. Lyft pickups from the airport are supposedly cheap but the last time I tried getting one it let me wait for 20 minutes; I eventually gave up and got a taxi. Uber from the airport regularly surges, usually right after a flight lands, and their surge price puts them well above the price of the taxis that are ready and waiting to pick people up. I’m…

Can you please share what taxi apps you'd recommend?
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