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Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by lotsofpulp »

realaleris149 wrote: post #180
lynx23 wrote: post #179

Cruel And Prejudiced Test Completely Harming Accessibility Imagine a non-native-english speaking visually impaired grandma trying to register to a random web service. CAPTCHAs are not a problem, people say, there are the audio versions, so go for it! Oh, you were never able to pick a language? Too bad you dont speak english. Oh, your hearing is not the best? You are clearly not a human, official stamp from SV. Why? O…

> Oh, we just couldn't think of any other solution, so we implemented CAPTCHA Or more likely they do not care, grandma is very hard to monetize.

That makes no sense in this case since you have to pay for MAX anyway.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by Kwpolska »

iancarroll wrote: post #177
wackget wrote: post #40

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The entire site is an exercise in delusion and marketing bullshit. I am absolutely convinced that the people selling this abomination of a product have either never used it themselves or are abjectly and wilfully misleading people. Some other choice quotes from the page: > Users have a bad association with difficult photo CAPTCHAs. > Instead of type what you hear (or alphanumerics) puzzles, we ask users simple questi…

Unfortunately, Arkose is one of the only viable products for stopping credential stuffing and other similar attacks. It has been implemented at several companies I've worked at because there are just not enough alternatives. The main value-add for companies like Arkose is that they have teams monitoring and changing the aggressiveness of the challenges as new attackers try to get around them. With a product like Reca…

If attackers get around reCAPTCHA, you are screwed, but so is half the Internet, including Google themselves. Do you think Google would not care about an increase in spam and would not try to fix reCAPTCHA?

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by lotsofpulp »

prepend wrote: post #88
TobyTheDog123 wrote: post #34

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>HBO doesn’t want people doing this without paying. But why (from their perspective)? They don't make their money from metadata, they make it from content. Every piece of real monkey-making content is going to get a torrent regardless of if it's protected behind a captcha.

Because they make more money by charging Apple and others. Why be reasonable when you can be unreasonable and make more money.

Is there a source that Apple pays Warner Bros Discovery (WBD) to get access to their catalog so WBD’s media shows up in searches in Apple’s TV app?

It makes very little sense to me. Surely WBD wants people to easily find WBD content to watch, and easily be able to pay them to watch it.

I know Netflix has been a holdout (the only one), and it is quite a stupid long term decision in my opinion, but I would not have thought Apple pays WBD, Paramount, Comcast, Disney, Starz, etc to be able to list their purchase-able media in Apple’s TV app.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by suddenclarity »

heavyset_go wrote: post #155
hnburnsy wrote: post #66

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Was it really wrong or was Google trying to get more 'work' out of you?

Are they even getting meaningful work out of Recaptcha now? I've seen them use the same dataset for quite a while.

I just assumed we were training self-driving cars that get postponed over and over again. I haven't seen recurring images but maybe I'm just seeing captcha so rarely that I haven't noticed.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by akvadrako »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #170

Captchas have gotten _crazy_ hard in the last year. The more difficult ones often take me 2-3 tries. There's got to be a better solution; in a year or two AIs are going to be performing these tasks better than humans possibly can.

Well they could ask you to sign a document with your government issued digital id.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by renewiltord »

wrs wrote: post #16
jacurtis wrote: post #9

I experienced the HBO Max captchas just a few days ago. Everyone did since they launched a new app and made everyone switch to that and re-login. Some of the solutions are clearly just wrong. I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong. I had to do the same audio puzzles and got the first audio puzzle wrong too, and I even…

I am baffled as to why they had to launch an entirely new app rather than just rename the existing one. Could Apple have made them change the bundle ID? It's like they're putting in deliberate obstacles for existing subscribers.

Oh, we don't recertify things if they are branded MAX out of an abundance of caution.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by iancarroll »

Kwpolska wrote: post #182
iancarroll wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, Arkose is one of the only viable products for stopping credential stuffing and other similar attacks. It has been implemented at several companies I've worked at because there are just not enough alternatives. The main value-add for companies like Arkose is that they have teams monitoring and changing the aggressiveness of the challenges as new attackers try to get around them. With a product like Reca…

If attackers get around reCAPTCHA, you are screwed, but so is half the Internet, including Google themselves. Do you think Google would not care about an increase in spam and would not try to fix reCAPTCHA?

You will not get the same level of support from Google as you will from a vendor dedicated to this. Ironically, HBO Max is the main case study on reCAPTCHA Enterprise's landing page, which I guess did not work out for exactly this reason: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/identity-security/how...

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by zootboy »

doctor_radium wrote: post #154
Zanni wrote: post #145

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The IRS is already doing this. They used to have a password-based login system, but they're switching over to ID.me, which requires a scan of your ID and a matching selfie.

I believe the ID.me system went down in flames. Got snagged by this myself for 2021 but opted to call a number and speak to a person instead. Shortly afterwards I discovered an article suggesting my reaction wasn't unique.

I wish it had, but unfortunately it seems like the IRS just waited out the storm and is now back at it. Their website implores you to "create an account with ID.me as soon as possible":

https://sa.www4.irs.gov/secureaccess/ui/

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by jamilton »

nebula8804 wrote: post #51
wackget wrote: post #42

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You know one service which has never stopped being reliable, easily available, high quality, and free to use? Piracy.

New free trade agreements will eventually come for the seedboxes.

Why do you think so? They're already illegal.
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