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I really want to sell a t-shirt that reads "I didn't visit your web site to play video games". Incidentally, my other t-shirt would read "I don't care about your stupid app".

Also a baseball cap: If I wanted to subscribe to your website, I'd find the link myself.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question: who has a decent plan to create proof-of-human systems that are not only CAPTCHA based? We will soon need this, and I feel government will gladly present a solution: provide your ID when you connect to the Internet, and we will guarantee you are a human. Who's actually working on this and has released papers I can study? Because all this AI nonsense will only accelerate us towards this total control…

> who has a decent plan to create proof-of-human systems that are not only CAPTCHA based? Why do sites need human verification anyway? If the problem is load, then you just need proper rate-limiting in place. Captcha always seems to be mis-identifying the real issue.

Ok, so how do you rate trigger on a particular bot such that it doesn't impact real users negatively? Further, bots that submit enough pseudo-random data have a decent chance of bypassing various security mechanisms, including for authorizing payments. Even at .0001% success rate given enough attempts they have a decent likelihood of eventually subverting existing security measures, and boosting those may be just as painful or inconvenient to users as CAPTCHA and similar mechanisms. The reality is bots don't have their own money to spend, humans do, and on its own that's enough reason to care. And what's next, bots being issued passports or mortgages etc.?

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I experienced the HBO Max captchas just a few days ago. Everyone did since they launched a new app and made everyone switch to that and re-login. Some of the solutions are clearly just wrong. I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong. I had to do the same audio puzzles and got the first audio puzzle wrong too, and I even…

While I don’t disagree this is an incredibly arrogant statement. Having a phd doesn’t in of itself make you right.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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post #9

I experienced the HBO Max captchas just a few days ago. Everyone did since they launched a new app and made everyone switch to that and re-login. Some of the solutions are clearly just wrong. I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong. I had to do the same audio puzzles and got the first audio puzzle wrong too, and I even…

I have a BS in Computer Science and I can't do basic math reliably... 3+4? About 10. Is that something they teach in grad school?

We're already way past the point bots can answer questions like that better than humans can.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

#176
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some it was probably "this gives us an excuse to rewrite the system, but better this time!" Rebranding often gives a certain amount of cover to do things you want to do even if you don't have to do it. Often new management wants to put their stamp on things. I've been in situations where we've had to do major redesigns because a new leader wanted to leave their mark. I've been in situations where each new leader want…

Rewriting doesn't require a new listing on really any of these platforms. They could have rewritten every single thing and still made it an update. I'm guessing there was some contractual thing (perhaps cable related) around the HBO name or else someone made a very poor choice.

Yep. Probably liscensing and future merger related. “The current plan is to unify the HBO Max service and the Discovery+ service under a single brand” https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/hbo-max-discovery-plus-m...

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This is Arkose MatchKey. Hopefully, they will one day fix the UI covering the images. https://www.arkoselabs.com/arkose-matchkey/

The entire site is an exercise in delusion and marketing bullshit. I am absolutely convinced that the people selling this abomination of a product have either never used it themselves or are abjectly and wilfully misleading people. Some other choice quotes from the page: > Users have a bad association with difficult photo CAPTCHAs. > Instead of type what you hear (or alphanumerics) puzzles, we ask users simple questi…

Unfortunately, Arkose is one of the only viable products for stopping credential stuffing and other similar attacks. It has been implemented at several companies I've worked at because there are just not enough alternatives.

The main value-add for companies like Arkose is that they have teams monitoring and changing the aggressiveness of the challenges as new attackers try to get around them. With a product like Recaptcha, you are inevitably completely screwed when attackers get around it.

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Cruel And Prejudiced Test Completely Harming Accessibility

Imagine a non-native-english speaking visually impaired grandma trying to register to a random web service. CAPTCHAs are not a problem, people say, there are the audio versions, so go for it! Oh, you were never able to pick a language? Too bad you dont speak english. Oh, your hearing is not the best? You are clearly not a human, official stamp from SV. Why? Oh, we just couldn't think of any other solution, so we implemented CAPTCHA and just dumped you and your pesky disabled friends. What?! You want to cross the digital divide? Not as long as we are in power!

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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post #179

Cruel And Prejudiced Test Completely Harming Accessibility Imagine a non-native-english speaking visually impaired grandma trying to register to a random web service. CAPTCHAs are not a problem, people say, there are the audio versions, so go for it! Oh, you were never able to pick a language? Too bad you dont speak english. Oh, your hearing is not the best? You are clearly not a human, official stamp from SV. Why? O…

> Oh, we just couldn't think of any other solution, so we implemented CAPTCHA

Or more likely they do not care, grandma is very hard to monetize.

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