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Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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I don’t brush my teeth because I don’t want the residual fluoride there. It’s healthier to just slosh some vodka around to kill the germs (this wouldn’t work with kids, but hey they’ll lose their first teeth so who cares).

> but hey they’ll lose their first teeth so who cares

Just like learning best practices in computer language-- fire up that REPL and don't do shit because it's not a real application.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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What do you consider necessary for “good quality toothpaste?”

I’m not OP or american, but i can comment. >1,500ppm concentration of fluoride is prescription only (so you either pay for a pointless dentist visit or get it on the grey market), despite being safe and much more effective at remineralisation. There are also experimental ingredients such as nanohydroxyapatite and Novamin which are difficult to find on the american market due to the FDA

> >1,500ppm concentration of fluoride is prescription only

Man that's silly. Where I am (Australia), 5000ppm is chemist-only, but doesn't need a prescription

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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I can tell you that salt is not fluoridated in the Netherlands (most people who care about cooking use pure sea salt anyway). As for toothpaste, almost every toothpaste anywhere in the world has it. There is evidence both ways, the original reports were that children's dental health improved after they stopped fluoridation in the 70s.

We don’t fluoridate our water but from 12-18 we do “fluor happen” (loosely translated: “fluor biting”), where we are given an upper and a lower bit which are both filled with heavily fluoridated gel, you bite into it and after a couple of minutes you take the bits out, rinse your mouth and then spit out any left-overs.

That’s interesting. Hadn’t heard of that. How common is this practice?

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Health officials, believe it or not, are like any other human beings - in that they also have their own agendas and sometimes those agendas may be in direct opposition to the well being of others. I am surprised that anyone is surprised when news like this comes out.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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There are significant lobbies now trying to put both statins and lithium into the tap water.

Wouldn't statins lower cholesterol in large populations of people who need it to, e.g., produce hormones? I can't imagine anyone wanting to inhibit the production of sex hormones (testosterone, estradiol, etc.) in children.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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That will just dehydrate your mouth and kill all the bacteria which is supposed to be there. I joke about it with my neighbors when we have a boil water advisory, do not actually do it in real life.

Wait till you find out whats in mouthwash...

Floor cleaner?

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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>That's one data point that I have observed. As with many things genetics plays a big part. I neglected going to the dentist for 15 years and take just ok care of my teeth (brush at least once per day, don't floss). I was expecting bad news, lots of cavities, but my teeth are perfect. After some plaque removal, not a single cavity. Asked the dentist about this, he shrugged and just said "genetics".

I'm sure they do, but the dentists here have told her that lack of fluoride is her problem. She is using a night time fluoride paste to help.

Dentists don’t do genome sequencing, so they have no way of ruling out genetics.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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It’s not particularly scary. In fact almost all salt has added iodine for public health reasons.

Iodine and fluoride aren’t really the same thing. Iodine is essential, you cannot survive without it, and it is added to supplement a deficiency. Fluoride is not essential, you can survive without it, and its addition is purely therapeutic, not due to some deficiency

As a biochemist, I know this perfectly well. But the motivation behind your “this is terrifying” was left as an exercise to the reader, so there was no way of distinguishing it from “omg the chemicals”.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Don't you have the same problem with the salt that you have with the water, no way to tell what dose everyone is receiving?

My guess it easier to buy different salt but hard to get second water pipe.

>A Reverse Osmosis (RO) system can remove 85-92%* of fluoride in your water.

https://www.paragonwater.com/does-reverse-osmosis-remove-flu...

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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post #136

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I'm sure they do, but the dentists here have told her that lack of fluoride is her problem. She is using a night time fluoride paste to help.

Dentists don’t do genome sequencing, so they have no way of ruling out genetics.

Sometimes you don't need to rule everything else out to be confident in a diagnosis.
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