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Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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It's in other products instead. I think it depends on the country, but usually salt and toothpaste. I don't think there are any developed countries that have stopped fluoridation entirely.

Only two countries, Germany and Switzerland, have fluoridated salt.

Salt fluoridation schemes are reaching more than 100 million people in Mexico, Colombia, Peru and Cuba as well as 85% of Switzerland and 67% of Germany.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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It's worth thinking about the fact that virtually the entire EU gets by with non fluoridated water.

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They don't have to spend tens of thousands of dollars on their children's teeth to make sure that their kids can find professional jobs without being written off the first time they smile during the job interview. It's a symptom of our sick culture in the US.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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When people destroy their natural healthy teeth to put on veneers, it's very far on that. When people destroy their teeth enamel, it's very far on that too. Destroying your natural teeth for an extra shade of blinding white or marginally straighter teeth is insane, and quite common.

We can all agree that somewhere in between is certainly the preferred option. Walking around with all veneers or crowns is a problem, but so is walking around with constant cavities and yellow teeth, so likely somewhere in between what the US does and the EU does.

Healthy teeth have nothing to do with veneers and crowns. The opposite of a decorated mouth is not a sick mouth, just like the opposite of a bright pink house isn't a burned down house.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Wow, I'd previously scoffed at anti-fluoridation stuff, thinking that everyone who made these claims sounded like General Ripper. But this was an interesting historical perspective. But ... what then keeps us in the status quo of fluoridated water supplies? Aluminum companies, still? seems unlikely that their influence would hold sway for a century. A century during which we have found other environmental pollutants…

> But ... what then keeps us in the status quo of fluoridated water supplies? > ...thinking that everyone who made these claims sounded like General Ripper.

So ... it's all Kubrick's fault?

The film didn't come out until half way into that century. And now we have generations who've never heard of it.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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As a European people here often make comments about American teeth being ridiculously white and unnaturally straight. You guys went a bit far on that one.

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Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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We can all agree that somewhere in between is certainly the preferred option. Walking around with all veneers or crowns is a problem, but so is walking around with constant cavities and yellow teeth, so likely somewhere in between what the US does and the EU does.

Healthy teeth have nothing to do with veneers and crowns. The opposite of a decorated mouth is not a sick mouth, just like the opposite of a bright pink house isn't a burned down house.

Worse, a veneer decorated mouth is a maimed mouth, whose healthy tissues were destroyed.

Veneers don't last forever, they will require lifetime commitment.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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We can all agree that somewhere in between is certainly the preferred option. Walking around with all veneers or crowns is a problem, but so is walking around with constant cavities and yellow teeth, so likely somewhere in between what the US does and the EU does.

Healthy teeth have nothing to do with veneers and crowns. The opposite of a decorated mouth is not a sick mouth, just like the opposite of a bright pink house isn't a burned down house.

Sure, that’s obviously true, but misses my point; on average, European teeth are less healthy than American teeth. At the same time, American teeth tend to have too much work done on them on average.

Both of these things can be true simultaneously.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Healthy teeth have nothing to do with veneers and crowns. The opposite of a decorated mouth is not a sick mouth, just like the opposite of a bright pink house isn't a burned down house.

Worse, a veneer decorated mouth is a maimed mouth, whose healthy tissues were destroyed. Veneers don't last forever, they will require lifetime commitment.

Losing your teeth is also a lifetime commitment.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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I always thought anti fluoridation sentiment in Utah was related to them having the highest dentist count per capita. It’s the only state that I know of where fluoridation isn’t common.

Dentists are the ones who are pro-fluoridation … at least it was a dental trade group that fought the release of this report (maybe they are funded behind the scenes by a different interest group)

Maybe. At least the Dental academy and association of LDS Dentists thinks so:

https://www.deseret.com/2000/9/29/19531458/fluoride-brochure...

It was a weird position against back then similar to the anti-vax position today.

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