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Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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I once found myself stuck in a biker bar west of Dallas. I had to listen to this old timer Hell’s Angel go on and on about fluoride conspiracies. Some of them are pretty wild - “fluoride is created by nuclear weapons construction as waste and the government has to get rid of it somehow, so in the water it goes” for example. The rest of the evening is a little hazy but I remember that.

Incidentally, I used to think Hell’s Angels were just retired dentists.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Adding fluoride to water has always seemed weird to me, since you can't control for how much water someone is drinking or account for different bodily factors like age and weight. I wonder why the European solution of adding it to salt isn't the default, especially given that iodized salt is already so popular and commonplace. As a general rule of thumb, I think it's interesting to scrutinize dosage recommendations a…

Don't you have the same problem with the salt that you have with the water, no way to tell what dose everyone is receiving?

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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This seems like it is ultimately a result of the politicization of the issue: it becomes difficult to have an honest conversation of the merits and demerits of something if you know there’s a political faction ready to seize on everything you say and take it out of context. Not saying that makes it right, but it’s an outcome we could anticipate, I think.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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There are significant lobbies now trying to put both statins and lithium into the tap water.

> These are just a few of the images we've recorded. And you can see, it wasn't what we thought. There's been no war here and no terraforming event. The environment is stable. It's the Pax. The G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate that we added to the air processors. It was supposed to calm the population, weed out aggression. Well, it works. The people here stopped fighting. And then they stopped everything else. They stopped going to work, they stopped breeding, talking, eating. There's 30 million people here, and they all just let themselves die.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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As someone who comes from an area with clean fresh water, that does not contain added fluoride, this is not a complex issue. It's simply not a question that comes up. People have good dental hygiene here. To my mind, yes sure you can over complicate the entire debate, but all of that is irrelevant in the face of these basic points: - Is there a chance that fluoride ingestion could be detrimental to human health? - Ca…

It seems pretty simple. Stop putting toxic waste in the water. If you’re worried about dental health, cut the sugar and use those little interdental brushes in addition to flossing and brushing well.

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Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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My wife comes from a country that did not add fluoride to the water. She has very good dental hygiene but here teeth are not in good shape for her age. That's one data point that I have observed.

>That's one data point that I have observed. As with many things genetics plays a big part. I neglected going to the dentist for 15 years and take just ok care of my teeth (brush at least once per day, don't floss). I was expecting bad news, lots of cavities, but my teeth are perfect. After some plaque removal, not a single cavity. Asked the dentist about this, he shrugged and just said "genetics".

I'm sure they do, but the dentists here have told her that lack of fluoride is her problem. She is using a night time fluoride paste to help.

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Novamin works wonders. It took me the last 30% of the way to not being sensitive to heat/cold/acid.i got about 20% there with just normal sensodyne toothpaste and another big chunk with vitamin k complex and vitamin d supplementation (this took about six months to be really noticeable). The order was dictated by me figuring out what i wanted to try and general availability in the case of novamin. So i cant really say…

For the record, the only clinical evidence about Novamin is very vague.

For the record, the rest of the stuff I mentioned has middling evidence for effectiveness as well, it's just the things that worked out of the myriad of things I tried that didn't. The vitamin k complex and d thing especially has limited evidence (and recently a paper came out that showed k2 increasing artery calcification, which is concerning but maybe not as bad as one thinks since the really dangerous part of arterial calcification is when it is in process. it also didn't control for vitamin d status and the hypothesis of k2 causing bone/teeth remineralization and not soft tissue mineralization usually hinges on d status being adequate).

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Adding fluoride to water has always seemed weird to me, since you can't control for how much water someone is drinking or account for different bodily factors like age and weight. I wonder why the European solution of adding it to salt isn't the default, especially given that iodized salt is already so popular and commonplace. As a general rule of thumb, I think it's interesting to scrutinize dosage recommendations a…

Don't you have the same problem with the salt that you have with the water, no way to tell what dose everyone is receiving?

My guess it easier to buy different salt but hard to get second water pipe.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

#139

I once found myself stuck in a biker bar west of Dallas. I had to listen to this old timer Hell’s Angel go on and on about fluoride conspiracies. Some of them are pretty wild - “fluoride is created by nuclear weapons construction as waste and the government has to get rid of it somehow, so in the water it goes” for example. The rest of the evening is a little hazy but I remember that. Incidentally, I used to think He…

They (ADA) were sort of Mafia-ish in South Park

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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It seems pretty simple. Stop putting toxic waste in the water. If you’re worried about dental health, cut the sugar and use those little interdental brushes in addition to flossing and brushing well.

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Can you imagine? Definitely abbreviates the "sweet tea" making process
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