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Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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From my experience of addiction, suppressing the sensation of pleasure derived, is only the start.

People who are addicted will repeat the behaviour even without the neurochemical response. Consider the ritual of the addiction as a form of self-soothing.

You have to treat the patterns we've trod in our own minds, as well as removing that biological reinforcement.

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If you're interested - not pushing an agenda. Here's what worked for this weird dude to not drink and stay fit. I used to lift and be real fit till about 40. Like bulky-lean looking, bench 400 10x with a 6pack. Had a lot to do with being on the road for work all over the world, and you sit at the gym at the hotel for an hour every night because of nothing else to do, and there are girls there also on business who you…

That last line does not belong on most respectable websites on the internet.

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Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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The first days, weeks and months are often the hardest time when quitting a substance. If this drug helps a smoker not smoke for 3 months, by that time the nicotine addiction has weakened considerably. They've gotten past the hardest part. I see no downside to that. Similarly, if a person loses 30 pounds on this drug, then stops using the drug and reverts to normal habits, it will take a while to regain those 30 poun…

That is not what happened to me. I took it for 2 months and then I wanted to get off. I did not go back to normal. Mentally I felt like I needed more food and more junk food than I ever did before using the drug. My hypothesis is that it supressed my body's natural production of whatever chemical in my brain helps me not go overboard with food. With that supressed by the drug I had an uncontrollable desire for food a…

Did you quit cold turkey? Or did you slowly taper it off?

I'm taking Rybelsus (pill form of semaglutide) and there are 3, 7 and 14 mg versions. My plan is to take 14 mg for a couple more months, then switch to 7 mg for 1-2 months and then 3 mg for a month before stopping taking it completely.

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Going to be huge when it goes off patent off exclusivity. I'd also expect you'll be able to get it when it's made in jurisdictions that will ignore the patent. Up to you to get it from those places, either via mail or travel runs.

A lot of clinics are administering the generic form and it is still very expensive.

If a drug is under a patent, the generic form still pays royalties to the patent holder, so of course it's still expensive.

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Is it really a dangerous dependency ? There's been no evidence of anything happening once individuals go off of semaglutide or tirzepatide other than the tendency of gaining weight to the original levels and/or blood sugar readings returning to the pre-medication levels. This is the most common outcome anyone has trying literally any calorie-reducing diet, medication or not. There's no evidence that people are ending…

How dangerous is it to have a new $1k/month bill you need to pay forever? So far there is no indication insurance companies are going to pay for 100 million Americans going on Ozempic who aren't diabetic... Anecdotally, another danger is people confusing less eating with a healthy diet. I know someone on Ozempic...eats less but what is eaten is the same old junk...

Move country, it costs about a tenth of that in the UK.

One month supply us about £135 which is about $170 at todays rate.

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What's your bloodwork and cardio like now and what does your doctor say? No fat + high carbs flies in the face of everything I've read that was published in the last 20 years. Maybe you've found another path to health?

You're confusing complex carbohydrates with sugar.

Pasta, rice, and fruit have huge amounts of simple sugars.

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Given a significant percent of voters are overweight and obese, it would be very politically popular to legislate that health insurance must pay for GLP-1 antagonists.

Wouldn't this cause insurers to have to raise their premiums for everyone substantially?

Why would a $1k/month drug increase costs more compared to the status quo of expensive bariatric surgeries and complicated heart failure/joint issues/osteoarthritis/sleep apnea etc. cases that arise from obesity? Massively reducing obesity rates seems like a good thing from the POV of an insurer.

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Vacuously false. Do you think "eat well and exercise regularly" is some kind of magic switch? One day you are 120lbs overweight but then you eat well and exercise for a week and star in a film?

Not a magic switch, but that's pretty much how the body works - a ratio between energy consumed and used. If you invert it, your weight will go down.
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