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Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by CapstanRoller »

tremere wrote: post #252

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>just by deciding to

Congratulations. You were blessed with some very convenient brain chemistry. Many others are not so lucky, and literally cannot even begin to commit to decisions you find trivial.

It's probably impossible for you understand what it's like (which is good!) but for many people it's completely ineffective to use their free will to try and overcome the pull of their brain's reward system. That's when exogenous chemical assistance is needed.

Addicts know what needs to be done, can see the harmful effects of not doing it, but no amount of internal force can make it happen. Addiction is horrible.

Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by water9 »

tysam_and wrote: post #262
usernew wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're interested - not pushing an agenda. Here's what worked for this weird dude to not drink and stay fit. I used to lift and be real fit till about 40. Like bulky-lean looking, bench 400 10x with a 6pack. Had a lot to do with being on the road for work all over the world, and you sit at the gym at the hotel for an hour every night because of nothing else to do, and there are girls there also on business who you…

That last line does not belong on most respectable websites on the internet.

If he hasn't learned by now, your post isn't going to teach him

Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by sneak »

pton_xd wrote: post #305
Aloha wrote: post #267

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It's really hard to explain to someone the agony of being hungry all the time - without experiencing it, they just cant understand.

> It's really hard to explain to someone the agony of being hungry all the time - without experiencing it, they just cant understand. This can easily happen if you eat the wrong food and train your gut to prefer the wrong types of food. And by "wrong food" I mean the typical American diet -- processed food and soda.

"processed" food is fine - all food is processed. The issue is with huge amounts of fast carbs coupled with high fat. It can occur even with "unprocessed" foods such ice cream.

Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by sibeliuss »

tremere wrote: post #252

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I think a healthy dose of compassion is in order here.

It is well known that compulsive tendencies are, in some people, literal demons that want nothing more than to destroy your life, and do. There are degrees to things and 'willpower' is not so simple.

Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by rblatz »

vore wrote: post #276
usernew wrote: post #258

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If you're interested - not pushing an agenda. Here's what worked for this weird dude to not drink and stay fit. I used to lift and be real fit till about 40. Like bulky-lean looking, bench 400 10x with a 6pack. Had a lot to do with being on the road for work all over the world, and you sit at the gym at the hotel for an hour every night because of nothing else to do, and there are girls there also on business who you…

This is such a "one weird trick your doctor doesn't want you to know!" anecdote. Mounjaro and Ozempic are generally prescribed in instances where dietary interventions are insufficient and perhaps one of the last resorts before bariatric surgery. If your dietary interventions worked for you -- great! But there is only a certain class of people for which they work for, and it is rude to assume the OP hasn't tried thes…

I was slightly overweight, 22% body fat 6’2” 220, and was suggested semaglutide (generic ozempic) all other standard health metrics in the healthy range. It’s not some crazy last resort drug, it’s basically everywhere and readily available to anyone that want it.

Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by CapstanRoller »

mym1990 wrote: post #84
iwanttocomment wrote: post #72

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Is it really a dangerous dependency ? There's been no evidence of anything happening once individuals go off of semaglutide or tirzepatide other than the tendency of gaining weight to the original levels and/or blood sugar readings returning to the pre-medication levels. This is the most common outcome anyone has trying literally any calorie-reducing diet, medication or not. There's no evidence that people are ending…

I don’t necessarily mean dangerous in the health aspect, although long term affects of these drugs are not know yet…I mean the dependency on needed the drug to keep a certain lifestyle, and then having an “oh shit” moment when you’re in a place that you can’t access it, whether that be traveling or the supply of it becomes scarce, or it gets banned, etc

>the dependency on needed the drug to keep a certain lifestyle, and then having an “oh shit” moment when you’re in a place that you can’t access it, whether that be traveling or the supply of it becomes scarce, or it gets banned, etc

It sounds like you're realizing what it's like to really depend on a medication.

The anxieties and risks you're describing are what people with diabetes, cancer, HIV, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, depression, ADHD, etc. deal with on a daily basis for their entire life.

Yeah, it is frightening! Sometimes a guy like this[0] comes along and makes your life even worse!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Shkreli

Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by cromulent »

Auracle wrote: post #223
Jun8 wrote: post #178

So, instead is suppressing the desire to eat, how about inventing a drug that blocks the absorption or breakdown of carbohydrates in the gut? Or maybe control the gut biome so that growth of bacteria that breaks down high calorie food is minimized. Is this faster-than-light-like impossible daydream or is there any plausible path to it?

I don’t know if I want a drug to exist that allows people to be gluttons without consequence. It’s like a modern (and real) vomitorium.

Some people will tell you though that they can eat anything and not put on weight - this is simply allowing others to do the same, right.

A vomitorium is simply the large exit pathway in stadia for rapid egress of many people. The idea that ancient Romans had facilities dedicated to vomiting has been debunked.

Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by [deleted] »

LazyMans wrote: post #155

Yes. On a compounded semaglutide. I can finally control my hunger and a nice unexpected effect has been losing a desire to drink large quantities of alcohol. I don’t drink during the week anyway, but it seems to be the volume that turns me off to drinking. Thus a few cocktails are all I can tolerate. For context, Im 30, male, would be defined as a binge drinker on weekends. Oh, and I’ve given up nicotine entirely. I…

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Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by xvilka »

I tried Ozempic for two months but wasn't able to continue - the gastrointestinal side effects are unbearable. I can confirm lack of desire to eat and drink alcohol. The hunger didn't go away but after a few bites of anything it quickly evaporated. After dropping the drug the hunger steeply increased, even higher than before, that was hard to contain.

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Post by rblatz »

vore wrote: post #309
usernew wrote: post #299

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and... this person now takes these last-measure pills forever? or here in the real world, do they use the pills to lose weight, and then maintain that normal weight forever with... perhaps a diet trick that works? people who have to take last-measure medication usually don't stop eating when they are full. i know, it's weird to tell someone who doesn't stop eating when they're full, how to still maintain weight if th…

Obesity is often a chronic medical condition that’s not solely controllable by willpower. There is no difference between taking pills for treating obesity as a chronic condition vs any other chronic condition, like type 1 diabetes. Decades of treating obesity as a personal failing have resulted in worse and unsustainable health outcomes. And again, you are being far too presumptuous about OP’s interventions. And I ce…

I suspect a chat bot, maybe not got-4, but maybe Bard? It’s close, but there was no point and the references were off but weirdly close. Like florist could be psychiatrist.
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