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Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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jonhohle wrote: post #514
dangus wrote: post #280

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They're not much different, they just run on a different time scale. Even if your same application continues to work forever, one of the following will happen: - Complementary software evolves. E.g.: My old photo editor doesn't support new image compression formats - Alternatives become more attractive. E.g.: I paid for a copy of Sublime Text but now I prefer VSCode because of its additional functionality, my old cop…

I have versions of Paint Shop Pro from the 90s that can open JPEG, GIF, PNG, TIFF, etc. files. I have used versions of After Effects of similar vintage. Premier and AE were doing 4K back then because that’s what Hollywood needed for their productions. Illustrator and Photoshop are mostly functional. Likewise, my Nikon camera from 2011 doesn’t stop working just because it’s old. The tools in my garage are no less effe…

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by dangus »

mejutoco wrote: post #393
dangus wrote: post #268

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But why would Apple stop supporting a subscription product that brings in revenue? You've unintentionally alluded to the reason why single-purchase software is such a flawed business model. If I buy a piece of software from a company that's using a one-time purchase business model, I basically have to expect them to go out of business or constantly be on life support because their only revenue comes from new customer…

> now it's a matter of "good luck finding a machine that still runs it." While it's great that you got to keep the software forever, that doesn't guarantee the software has value anymore. On a system that can be virtualized the software may very well run forever.

I said “has value” not “runs.”

I can virtualize Disk Defragmenter on a Windows 98 VM, but what value does that have?

I can virtualize Visual Studio ‘97, but what value does that have?

The examples of old pay-once software that has no value to today is basically endless. Even the ones that still have value eventually get an open source competitor that surpasses them.

For example, Gimp is certainly better than some very old versions of Photoshop, and a modern Linux distribution is better than an old version of Windows (even if you believe Windows 11 to be the best OS currently available).

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by koiueo »

Maursault wrote: post #549
koiueo wrote: post #546

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There's nothing special in RME regarding its USB operation. iPad can emit material with different sampling rate (haven't verified different bit depth, but I guess, there should be no issues), iPad also knows not to meddle with the software mixing and delegates everything to the DAC. It behaves exactly as I'd like it to behave. No joke intended. My point was, that if iPad has no issues with this device, then it must b…

> There's nothing special in RME regarding its USB operation. It's USB Audio that is special. > iPad can emit material with different sampling rate (haven't verified different bit depth, but I guess, there should be no issues), Core Audio is a component of iPadOS and iOS, and along with Core Audio comes everything Core Audio can do. > iPad also knows not to meddle with the software mixing Is there an example or anecd…

> Is there an example or anecdote you have in mind of a platform meddling with mixing?

Sure, Android resamples everything to 48kHz, uses software mixing. No workaround. GNU/Linux by default does the same with PipeWire, PulseAudio and ALSA (dmix). One can configure it for bitperfect playback though. I can’t say about modern Windows, the last one I used was Windows 7, and by default it resampled everything to 48kHz too.

> USB Audio that is special

The last time I saw a non USB audio class device was some 15 years ago. I frankly do not understand, why are you stressing this so much.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by spectre3d »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #160

This is great, but why not just have Garage Band work the same / be the same on both platforms? I'm a PC user; few years ago I realized how great iPad GarageBand was for playing around. Like an idiot, I literally purchased a used MacBook so I can edit my iPad travelling doodles at home with big screen as well, only to realize that they are different software with different capabilities and you cannot seamlessly copy…

Logic Pro is required to do what you’re asking. (If you wrote the initial track on iOS then you need to import the iOS GarageBand file to Logic first) [1]

However, it works great and I’ve enjoyed tweaking my (desktop Mac) Logic projects on iOS GarageBand for years.

[1] https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/logicpro/lgcpa81aa804/...

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by spectre3d »

lostgame wrote: post #257
shp0ngle wrote: post #214

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You cannot? Huh I am an Apple ecosystem guy and the assumption that GarageBand on iPadOS and GarageBand on macOS will be compatible is really a reasonable one; I would think it’s the case!!

It is not. You can open iOS/iPadOS GarageBand files in MacOS, but you cannot open MacOS GarageBand files on iOS/iPadOS.

True, but you can open macOS Logic Pro files in GarageBand on iOS. [1]

[1] https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/logicpro/lgcpa81aa804/...

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by spectre3d »

mwidell wrote: post #275

There is a great app for iPad called LumaFusion, which is very similar to Final Cut. I tried using an iPad Pro for a couple of weeks when it came out, to see if it can replace a laptop or desktop. Biggest problem was ergonomics. So incredibly bad ergonomics to work on an iPad, even with the pen. Impossible to work without strain in neck and arm. So I'm back to Macbook and I will never again attempt to edit video on a…

LumaFusion is great because it supports direct reading from and writing to external hard drives with a USB-C iPad.

Agree on the touch interface, although I use a keyboard and trackpad with it.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by saagarjha »

Applejinx wrote: post #380
monocularvision wrote: post #371

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Being a full time iOS engineer means having to tell folks it is “Xcode” not “XCode” every time see it.

Damn if you're not right. I stand corrected. I wonder why I thought I needed to mentally camel-case it? Is that what it was? Was it ever capitalized this way or have I been making it up this whole time? I think it's Mandela Effect. I don't know of any other words that can have the letters 'Xc' in sequence in a capitalized word, so my brain must just reject the idea even though I've literally seen it over and over rig…

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