I saw this "trend" long time ago. Switched to Resolve and Studio One.
Call me an old head, but there is something in using multiple displays and knowing that your software is platform-agnostic. :)
Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad
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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad
#272At $50 a year (equates to $4 a month if paid annually), this is - albeit a subscription model - so much better than Adobe's £20 a month plan for just Premiere (obviously to get you to go for the £50 a month plan). It's a much better plan and I hope things like this make Adobe consider their costs. It's a big ask and I know they won't... but you can hope.
Premiere is $31.49 per month on the month plan. The annual plan paid monthly is $20.99 per month.
For all apps is $82.49 pel month on them monthly plan.
Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad
#273So many “I don’t get it” comments in this thread. And complaints about the subscription pricing. The market for this seems pretty obvious - teenagers. iPad seems like the default computer for kids these days and kids like to create. When I was a teenager I had to build my own PC, struggle to pirate Cubase and some plugins and it was a nightmare. When I finally got a MacBook Logic being $200 was out of reach still. A…
I do get it,
time to say good bye to Darwin (BSD kernel) MacOS..
Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad
#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
> while _actual_ creative professionals will more than willingly pay $5/mo and love every minute of it. I doubt that: https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/30/23662000/waves-audio-engi... > Music producers revolted against an app’s subscription scheme — and won Actual Music producers hate subscription schemes.
Yes, but one of these was a plugin for $25/mo and the other is the whole damn tool to do your job for $5 a month on a device you couldn't run it on in the past. I expect it to not actually be bashed.
At first I was excited to see Logic pro on the Ipad but as soon as I saw subscription my excitement instantly died. I'll just stick with Garageband on the Ipad for my basic music needs.
Same thing happened with Adobe, I was a die hard Premiere pro fan and now I haven't used it in years since I moved to Davinci Resolve all because Adobe went all in on subs.
Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad
#275There is a great app for iPad called LumaFusion, which is very similar to Final Cut. I tried using an iPad Pro for a couple of weeks when it came out, to see if it can replace a laptop or desktop.
Biggest problem was ergonomics. So incredibly bad ergonomics to work on an iPad, even with the pen. Impossible to work without strain in neck and arm.
So I'm back to Macbook and I will never again attempt to edit video on an iPad.
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#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
The idea that any piece of gear enables artist is one of the biggest lies we have been sold. True Artist will use any tool at their reach to do art. In terms of music the level is so high already that is irrelevant. Sound is not music.
Does a piano player relying on a piano not count as “gear enabling an artist”? If there’s no piano does that true artist start playing a napkin instead because it’s within their reach?
I mean, the OP was clearly referring to music composition:
> The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been really high.
And in terms of music composition, you can probably get away with just humming out the tune and leave the rest for the producer to figure out.
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#277More companies should just adopt Jetbrains model. Month subscription available, but by paying the annual subscription you get a perpetual license for the last release covered by your purchase, which makes an annual subscription pretty much the same as "buy with 1 year of updates".
iOS devices don't support downloading specific versions of apps, and you cannot sideload. Apple has made this model impossible on iOS.
Actually it does.
If you have a device that doesn’t support the newest version of the app, you can choose to “download the last compatible version”
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#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been poor before and $200 one-time is WAY less expensive than $5/mo recurring. If I can't afford to save $200 I sure can't afford to pay $5 recurring. Recurring subscriptions are for the wealthy, not the poor, the poor can do just fine with freeware or some 10 year old version of whatever. Paying a recurring monthly subscription isn't the only way to get a trial.
Sounds like you're not a kid to me. I didn't have $200 to spend until I was halfway through college. But I sure as hell would have been able to afford $5 a month.
I participated in the long and storied tradition of child labour to buy things I wanted.
If you didn't have any money to spend until halfway though college other than a surplus of $5/month, than by saving for $200 you likely would have doubled your disposable income and you would have left school with a Final Cut Pro license on top of that. I'm sure kids will buy it, and they're going to be worse for it than when they paid $200 for a license.
In any case, I can't emphasise enough how much paying a monthly subscription over a one time fee does not help the poor in general, at best it allows for you to shift expenses a few years down the road with low interest if you're some sort of temporarily embarrassed millionaire, which isn't the same thing as helping poor kids other than maybe some small niche. Being poor doesn't mean you should do more $5/month subscriptions, it means you can't get away with them nearly as much without getting punished by economic reality.
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#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
> while _actual_ creative professionals will more than willingly pay $5/mo and love every minute of it. I doubt that: https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/30/23662000/waves-audio-engi... > Music producers revolted against an app’s subscription scheme — and won Actual Music producers hate subscription schemes.
Yes, but one of these was a plugin for $25/mo and the other is the whole damn tool to do your job for $5 a month on a device you couldn't run it on in the past. I expect it to not actually be bashed.
$5/mo is waaaayyyy less than I’ve paid for Ableton Live on average. It’s not in quite the same space as Logic Pro, but you can credibly lump them in as “professional music production software”.
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#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even without the subscription model, one never owns the software they buy. It's still just a license, at the end of the day.
irrevocable licenses are pretty different than subscriptions.
They're not much different, they just run on a different time scale.
Even if your same application continues to work forever, one of the following will happen:
- Complementary software evolves. E.g.: My old photo editor doesn't support new image compression formats
- Alternatives become more attractive. E.g.: I paid for a copy of Sublime Text but now I prefer VSCode because of its additional functionality, my old copy of Photoshop CS2 works fine but the new one will save me time during XYZ workflow compared to the old version.
- The utility of the application is exhausted. E.g.: I already played this single player game 10 times and it's not fun anymore, my copy of Final Cut Pro 6 can't produce 4K HDR movies that my customers demand.