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Startups Are Scooping Up Big Tech’s Cast-Off Workers

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Re: Startups Are Scooping Up Big Tech’s Cast-Off Workers

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Post by davidw »

M3L0NM4N wrote: post #35
choeger wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany, it's not the social system per se but it's aoparent utter ineffectiveness. We're paying more and more every year but the state/public system seems to fail everywhere and worse so than the year before. It's like the money is completely sucked up by some unproductive black hole. And no, it's not because of reduced taxation from rich to working class, or missing taxes on property or some other policy. These…

That is, in my opinion, by far the strongest argument for lower taxes. The money we (the US) do spend in education/healthcare/infrastructure is already poorly utilized, why would we want to spend more and end up like that? To simplify it dramatically with an example, I'd rather pay $3 on the toll road and $50k for a surgery myself than pay $10 in taxes towards the road and $100k in taxes towards the healthcare system…

The IRS recently got a significant amount of funding, and call times went down by a lot.

There are certainly inefficiencies out there, and we should always be trying to root them out, but sometimes if you starve an organization of funding, it doesn't perform very well. Shocker!

Re: Startups Are Scooping Up Big Tech’s Cast-Off Workers

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Post by ouiouiaway2 »

RestlessMind wrote: post #96
ouiouiaway2 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Because the French couldn't give a fuck about making money. citation needed. I have met a lot of French people and they just seem normal human beings like any other nation. So I disagree with you.

Talk to those in the countryside, not Île-de-France.

Real French; not the over-socialized urbanites or the spiritually-deadened "cosmopolitans."

Re: Startups Are Scooping Up Big Tech’s Cast-Off Workers

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Post by userabchn »

Animatronio wrote: post #58
M3L0NM4N wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is, in my opinion, by far the strongest argument for lower taxes. The money we (the US) do spend in education/healthcare/infrastructure is already poorly utilized, why would we want to spend more and end up like that? To simplify it dramatically with an example, I'd rather pay $3 on the toll road and $50k for a surgery myself than pay $10 in taxes towards the road and $100k in taxes towards the healthcare system…

Yes, but suppose there's a "road company" you'd have to pay a toll to. Obviously they love profit margins and since they're a monopoly (they own the road) the toll would soon balloon to $20 then $35 then $100.

I think landowners should declare a value for their property, that is used for taxation, but also allows anyone to immediately buy the land from you at that price. This would allow rival road companies to quickly purchase the land necessary to build an alternative road. Such wasteful duplication would rarely happen in practice, though, because the knowledge that they do not have a guaranteed monopoly, that another company can build an alternative road if they charge exorbitant fees, will keep the charge to use the road reasonable.

Re: Startups Are Scooping Up Big Tech’s Cast-Off Workers

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Post by yamtaddle »

virtualritz wrote: post #53
dantheman wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about? The US has one of the most progressive tax systems, and like 50% of people don't even pay income tax. The government wastes money and the medical establishment is corrupt -- but that has nothing to do with rich people living off of the poor. The poor in America are far richer than the poor in most other countries.

> The poor in America are far richer than the poor in most other countries. You probably mean the US/Canada. 'America' includes South America for which this is not generally true. However, replace 'America' in your sentence with any developed country and the statement is indeed generally true. And thusly of little value to this discussion. Specifically it doesn't change the fact that the poor in the US are much poore…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States

> The United States of America (U.S.A. or USA), commonly known as the United States (U.S. or US) or America

> Demonym(s) American[b][8]

Pretending not to understand this is tiresome.

Re: Startups Are Scooping Up Big Tech’s Cast-Off Workers

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Post by RestlessMind »

hef19898 wrote: post #99
RestlessMind wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok let's do a fairer comparison. Avg annual income across EU was 33,500 Euro in 2022[1]. For the USA, that was 60,500USD [2] [1] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/d... [2] https://www.sofi.com/learn/content/average-salary-in-us/

And yet you do not hear of normal people in the EU going bancrupt over medical expenses or not taking an ambulance because they cannot afford it. Funny, isn't it?

But you do hear a lot of them complaining in different ways about how they are oppressed. I won't even give citation apart from [1]. So nope, not funny.

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=protests+by+poor+people+in+e...

Re: Startups Are Scooping Up Big Tech’s Cast-Off Workers

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Post by TinkersW »

virtualritz wrote: post #53
dantheman wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about? The US has one of the most progressive tax systems, and like 50% of people don't even pay income tax. The government wastes money and the medical establishment is corrupt -- but that has nothing to do with rich people living off of the poor. The poor in America are far richer than the poor in most other countries.

> The poor in America are far richer than the poor in most other countries. You probably mean the US/Canada. 'America' includes South America for which this is not generally true. However, replace 'America' in your sentence with any developed country and the statement is indeed generally true. And thusly of little value to this discussion. Specifically it doesn't change the fact that the poor in the US are much poore…

In English America refers to the US. If this was Spanish you would be correct, but pretty clearly English is the language being used.

If you want to refer to both North & South America just add an 's', Americas.

Re: Startups Are Scooping Up Big Tech’s Cast-Off Workers

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Post by throwaway8582 »

deeviant wrote: post #101
M3L0NM4N wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is, in my opinion, by far the strongest argument for lower taxes. The money we (the US) do spend in education/healthcare/infrastructure is already poorly utilized, why would we want to spend more and end up like that? To simplify it dramatically with an example, I'd rather pay $3 on the toll road and $50k for a surgery myself than pay $10 in taxes towards the road and $100k in taxes towards the healthcare system…

So because the government is perceived to be bad at stuff, we should instead redistribute (an even greater part of) the wealth to rich people, because they do a really good job bring societal good with their piles of gold?

Lowering taxes and allowing people to keep their own money qualifies as "redistribution" now?

Re: Startups Are Scooping Up Big Tech’s Cast-Off Workers

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Post by RestlessMind »

ouiouiaway2 wrote: post #112
RestlessMind wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Because the French couldn't give a fuck about making money. citation needed. I have met a lot of French people and they just seem normal human beings like any other nation. So I disagree with you.

Talk to those in the countryside, not Île-de-France. Real French; not the over-socialized urbanites or the spiritually-deadened "cosmopolitans."

I am convinced that you are a troll if you think people living in Ile-de-France are not real French.

Re: Startups Are Scooping Up Big Tech’s Cast-Off Workers

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Post by ghaff »

rsynnott wrote: post #24
KyeRussell wrote: post #12

Cue some until-now-insulated Big Tech workers getting a huge dose of culture shock when they see how work is done somewhere without their own money printer.

Most people who work in ‘big tech’ have previously worked elsewhere. Having worked both in small (<100 people and sometimes <10 people) startups and now in Big Tech(TM), it’s not necessarily clear to me that one’s better than the other. They’re different, but working in a startup is not clearly _worse_.

I've worked at everything from a 20K person company to a 5 person company and there are pros and cons with probably a lot more variance as you get to the smaller end of the scale. And people have different priorities and even a given person can have different priorities and preferences depending upon where they are in life.

Re: Startups Are Scooping Up Big Tech’s Cast-Off Workers

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Post by Invictus0 »

M3L0NM4N wrote: post #35
choeger wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany, it's not the social system per se but it's aoparent utter ineffectiveness. We're paying more and more every year but the state/public system seems to fail everywhere and worse so than the year before. It's like the money is completely sucked up by some unproductive black hole. And no, it's not because of reduced taxation from rich to working class, or missing taxes on property or some other policy. These…

That is, in my opinion, by far the strongest argument for lower taxes. The money we (the US) do spend in education/healthcare/infrastructure is already poorly utilized, why would we want to spend more and end up like that? To simplify it dramatically with an example, I'd rather pay $3 on the toll road and $50k for a surgery myself than pay $10 in taxes towards the road and $100k in taxes towards the healthcare system…

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