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Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by deltree7 »

sidfthec wrote: post #131
deltree7 wrote: post #105

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You'd pay double the price for double the fridge capacity (if doubling your capacity serves useful purpose for you) You'd pay double the price for double the screen size (if more screen size serves a useful purpose to you) It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp.

I would? I don't see how those have anything to do with the price. The newly announced Pixel Tablet screen is 4 times larger than the newly announced Pixel 7a, and they're the same price. Is the Pixel Tablet supposed to be $2k because the screen is 4x larger? I really don't know what either of you are talking about with these strange thoughts on pricing.

It doubles as a Tablet and a Phone and I'm willing to pay Tablet + Phone + Convenience price for it.

A concept not hard to understand.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by ThatPlayer »

StrangeATractor wrote: post #168

I'd like foldables if they had two separate screens which acted as one, like a miniature laptop with an extra screen where the keyboard would be. The bendy display makes me think I'll wear it out pretty quickly. Pretty sure Microsoft did this for one of their recent devices.

Microsoft's Duo. LG have also done this with a dual screen case on the V60 (and other phones such as the Velvet). Too bad they don't make phones anymore, so I'll be keeping my V60 for a bit.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by RajT88 »

xnyanta wrote: post #44
manningthegoose wrote: post #9

I just don't understand who wants these foldable phones, especially at the $1799 price point. I guess a use case is wealthy frequent travelers who don't want a separate device with a larger screen to watch movies/videos on the go? Someone help me out here.

I'm posting this from my Galaxy Z Fold 3. I'm not particularly wealthy or a frequent traveler. I bought this phone used for 750 bucks in Canada and my main use case for the screen real-estate is reading manga on it, which it excels at. It also then serves as a phone and a media in bed machine. It is fragile and I take good care of it but it is absolutely the most innovative and exciting phone I've had the pleasure of…

Can confirm that the screen real estate makes reading comics of all kind amazing.

I usually do so on my tablet, but before tablets were a thing, I was reading comics on my various touchscreen phones. Pinch to zoom: Mandatory.

I prefer cheaper android phones. My requirements for a general purpose computer in my pocket were long ago exceeded. Reading comics on the go is fine with a phone, better with a tablet (of which I have several, the most expensive one being still cheaper than the cost of the new Pixel Fold even when you add in the cost of my work phone and personal phones).

Computing power is so cheap these days, I am a big fan of just having one-off devices on the cheap. My new Kali Linux box? A $50 refurb Chromebook. Let's not screw with multi-boot shenanigans if we don't have to.

I really don't need a do-everything device. I think most people don't either, they just want one.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by 0x457 »

blep_ wrote: post #88
anonporridge wrote: post #83

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You'd be dumb not to take 0% financing. Put the money you would have spent buying outright in a savings account yielding 4%.

Where did you find a savings account yielding 4%?

My Marcus by GS gives me 4.15% and Ally gives be 3.75%.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by coffeebeqn »

nerdix wrote: post #81
theshrike79 wrote: post #46

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Anyone remember the amount of memes the first over $1k iPhone generated? Pepperidge Farm remembers. After that Samsung, and now Google, have released multiple almost $2k devices to complete silence.

They're foldables. It's a completely different product category. And it's pretty niche right now.

Heck I remember when foldables were like $100 from Motorola etc

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by jsheard »

vanshg wrote: post #145
Jeff_Brown wrote: post #120

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A few hundred?! That's like a week of use. Does that happen a lot? Do we have a way of estimating the average number of folds a user can expect before failure?

Samsung tested their original Galaxy Fold to 200,000 folds [0]. At a generous 100 folds per day, that's about 5.5 years. [0] https://www.anandtech.com/show/14136/samsung-galaxy-fold-can...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm_BEpXojrY

This guy independently tested a Flip 3, getting authentic humans to perform the folds rather than an automated test rig, and the hinge was the first component to give up after 418,500 cycles with the display itself surviving.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by brookst »

dr_kiszonka wrote: post #167
brookst wrote: post #162

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The 200,000 figure isn't super meaningful unless they report average folds to failure and standard deviation. From that article, it could be that they test to 200,000 folds because at that point 99.6% have failed, and the 50% failure rate might be at 100,000. Or 20,000. Or 190,000. I don't think they're saying that 100% of phones will last to 200,000 folds. That would be a bold claim indeed.

My interpretation of this article and the original press release is that the screens are supposed to last at least 200k folds.

If it's 0% failure at 200k folds, that means the 200k is about six standard deviations away from the mean, so I think (statistics gurus please correct) that says the average device will last for 1.7m folds.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by 1024core »

Funnily, at 7.6" (unfolded) it's less than an inch bigger than a Pixel 7a Pro (6.7"). Why go through this rigmarole of folding when you're barely adding much realestate?

I guess that's why I'm not a VP at some BigCo.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by RajT88 »

xnyanta wrote: post #66
manojlds wrote: post #54

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So you don't want it at $1800 right.

It's absolutely overpriced considering I think Samsung has better offerings at that price point (which I think are equally ovepriced). I think fierce competition will bring the price of this emerging form factor down in the long term. That said, I am loving the device and will not hesitate to pay some more to trade it in for a next gen device when they come out. I'm not interested in returning to a slab phone at the…

Fierce competition, and dropping production costs for the tech.

I am old enough to remember when your average laptop was several thousand dollars, much of the cost of which was due to the LCD display. My daily-driver laptop in college I bought used for like $900 in 2001 (a Toshiba Tecra 780-DVD), but originally all the kit I bought with it would have run close to $6,000.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by coffeebeqn »

wiseowise wrote: post #78
yuters wrote: post #69

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I'm left-handed but never had a pixel or a recent android phone. What is the problem exactly? Something about the index finger print vs the thumb?

It’s impossible to comfortably unlock phone without using right hand.

Huh? My left thumb can reach the button just as well as my right one when using one hand. This is on a iPhone SE
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