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Re: Google Pixel Fold

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At zero percent interest, it in effect reduces the price of the phone, so perhaps you should reconsider it.

You'd be dumb not to take 0% financing. Put the money you would have spent buying outright in a savings account yielding 4%.

Some people are debt adverse.

I would not even be bothered to go through the financing hassle for the few tens of $ of interest that would yield.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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The Live Translate video shows 'aqui' instead of 'aquí'. I don't know if that's an error the software actually makes, or if the person who composited the text into the video had the wrong spelling.

$5 that was human error in post. Usually you'd have an animation made manually, not recorded from a simulator, then composite that onto the final shot. It's pretty hard to record screens without blowing out the dynamic range of the rest of the scene, to make them super crisp it's just easier to add it on later.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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> If you use your phone an average of 5 hours a day for two years and then throw it in a junk drawer the hardware would cost less than 50cents per hour of use. I don't understand this type of justification. My fridge would cost around $65k for a 15 year lifetime at $0.50/hour. It just seems like a completely meaningless way to judge the value of something.

The point is not to judge sticker price as an absolute or as percentage of your annual salary, say. It's to judge it based on the value it gives you per unit of time. It's the entire justification for investing less in things you use less, and investing more in things you use more. That we generally receive benefits not in one-offs but spread out over time.

It's completely missing a huge part of the equation though: comparison to cheaper options.

Something might not sound so expensive if you frame it as $0.50/hour of use. But it certainly does if there's an alternative that meets your needs that you can get for $0.10/hour of use.

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Do you often buy the same product in different sizes?

Yes, I bought an iPhone 4 and then upgraded to iPhone 6 which had a larger screen. I had a 55' TV and I also bought an 85' TV. I had a 24' monitor. I also bought a 34' monitor Not a difficult concept to grasp

> I had a 55' TV and I also bought an 85' TV.

> I had a 24' monitor. I also bought a 34' monitor

So huge! I don't think I could even fit a 24' monitor in my house. How would you get it through a door?

Re: Google Pixel Fold

#145

Yikes. Google hasn't magically figured out how to fix the problem with the screens failing after a few hundred bends; neither has Samsung, which is most likely their display supplier. On top of that, there is no viable market for a phone over $1200 (and, arguably, no market for over $1000, ask Apple how their sales have been going down since the peak in 2015); what were they even thinking? This is ridiculous even for…

A few hundred?! That's like a week of use. Does that happen a lot? Do we have a way of estimating the average number of folds a user can expect before failure?

Samsung tested their original Galaxy Fold to 200,000 folds [0]. At a generous 100 folds per day, that's about 5.5 years.

[0] https://www.anandtech.com/show/14136/samsung-galaxy-fold-can...

Re: Google Pixel Fold

#146

I just don't understand who wants these foldable phones, especially at the $1799 price point. I guess a use case is wealthy frequent travelers who don't want a separate device with a larger screen to watch movies/videos on the go? Someone help me out here.

I've a Galaxy Fold 3 and now 4 for about 2 years now. It is my biggest cellphone QOL improvement since the Pixel mainstreamed AI photography in the first pixel.

Best extra $400 spent per year or so.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

#147

I just don't understand who wants these foldable phones, especially at the $1799 price point. I guess a use case is wealthy frequent travelers who don't want a separate device with a larger screen to watch movies/videos on the go? Someone help me out here.

Agreed on the high costs. That said, I am very happy with my flip. Smaller pocket footprint, and far fewer accidental unlocks now. (That is, my phone used to unlock with me just putting hands in pocket. Very annoying.)

Also feels good to "close" the phone. In ways that locking doesn't quite reach.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

#149

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The point is not to judge sticker price as an absolute or as percentage of your annual salary, say. It's to judge it based on the value it gives you per unit of time. It's the entire justification for investing less in things you use less, and investing more in things you use more. That we generally receive benefits not in one-offs but spread out over time.

It's completely missing a huge part of the equation though: comparison to cheaper options. Something might not sound so expensive if you frame it as $0.50/hour of use. But it certainly does if there's an alternative that meets your needs that you can get for $0.10/hour of use.

Well of course, it seemed like that part went without saying.

There have been a bunch of times in my life when I delayed purchasing or felt guilty about purchasing something genuinely valuable but very expensive.

But then when you're in year 5 or 7 of using it daily, you're like... best use of my money ever. That's the point here.

If you spend a ton of time needing a large screen, using this for 3 years might be that expensive purchase that pays off for you.

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One could argue the same about every product. 1000$ for an iPhone? To do what chat and watch videos?

That's exactly what I say. I have the iPhone SE.

I switched because of battery life and better camera. The better camera is mostly for fun. However, it also really helps with pictures on Tinder. I just got into a relationship again after a while. If I didn’t have the iPhone 12 mini, it might be the case that I had less traction on Tinder. Given my experience with it, I am fairly sure I’d have 20 to 50% of the matches I’d have now
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