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Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by TheRealPomax »

basisword wrote: post #262
TheRealPomax wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see you missed the whole "Logic Pro costs $499" era and the earth shattering news when Apple lowered the price to $199. And far too many DAW creators refuse to learn that lesson, instead going "you can have a DAW for $199 but you only get three and a half tracks, only one can be a plugin, and your audio files must be in 17 bit RIFF wave with the bytes in reverse order. If you want something better, pay us more".

I remember when they dropped the price to $200. It's what finally got me to move from Garageband/pirating stuff. It's also what keeps me away from playing with a lot of other DAW's.

honestly the only way to get most of the other ones is to go "okay if I get a MIDI controller with a free copy of the entry level version, then I can bump that up to the REAL entry level version for cheap, and then when they release the next version I can bump that up to the intermediate version during a sale, and then a year later I can probably get the REAL version as a black Friday upgrade."

Yay!

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by TheRealPomax »

dagmx wrote: post #171
TheRealPomax wrote: post #147

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The lack of AU on Windows, and the lack of VST on any mobile device, is done more to hold back DAW than anything else.

Most plug-ins are available as multiple formats though. Is it really that much of a friction point? Pro Tools has seen huge success despite being the only major user of RTAS/AAX for example.

The part where they're not available on mobile? Incredibly so.

The fact that there's no AU on Windows? Less so.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by bravura »

I wanted to go iPad only for live music for a while, but found the supporting hardware to be lacking. (This was like five years ago.)

I spent money on a dock that would allow me two audio inputs (microphone and guitar for example) and a USB jack for plugging in an external MIDI keyboard. The experience was somewhat janky and unreliable. I wonder if that has changed.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by Someone »

nottorp wrote: post #21
brookst wrote: post #13

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I'd much rather pay $50/year and get perpetual updates than the old price of $199 one time. Yes, I'd rather pay $5 one time and get free updates forever, but I just can't see complaining about $4/month for anything I get ongoing value from.

You like losing access when you cancel the subscription? Or when an older device is cut off from the app store?

Or when Apple decides to completely cancel the product across all devices?

I know Apple is growing towards being a service provider, but they have a long history of dropping support for older soft- and hardware.

Staying at an older OS or old hardware or running unsupported software isn’t ideal, but with a SaaS offering, the provider can cut access overnight.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by klipklop »

NewMountain wrote: post #296
jahnu wrote: post #49

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As developers of professional audio plugins this is very exciting for us. The horsepower is there and the touch interface allows for some really cool possibilities. We already enjoy using AUM and Cubasis, but will be very interested to see if support for pro hardware improves now on iPad.

I recently did a gig with a quad cortex and honestly I couldn't shake the feeling of just wishing I could have all my Plugins (FabFilter, SoundToys, NAM and NeuralDSP mostly) instead. iPad, good interface, some bluetooth switch/expression pedal and all the same plugins I have at home would be amazing for me. Just curious if anyone knows. Suppose a band of the future is just a few players who show up with iPads (guita…

For live performances you can do a lot of this stuff with AUM. It’s awesome for chaining plug-ins in novel ways. Has midi support as well. It’s the main way I use plugins on iPad.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by squokko »

meghan_rain wrote: post #19
dagmx wrote: post #11

Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

> Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. Macbook?

Personally, I feel like the iPad is very "flow" and the computer is very "precise." When I'm in the zone, just vibing, I'd much prefer to bust out musical ideas on an iPad (assuming no instruments available, of course). When I want to tweak the exact reverb parameters I'd rather have the computer.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by filoleg »

bookaway wrote: post #124

Am I the only one that finds the process of getting files of a decent size from non-Apple devices to Apple mobile devices incredibly frustrating, almost enough to be a deal breaker? What is the current best practice for the fastest way to get video files on an IPad as of now?

Current best practice would depend on what you are trying to do exactly.

But overall the fastest way to transfer files to/from iPad (both in terms of ease/speed of use, as well as the actual transfer speeds) is just hooking up an external drive (whether it is a flash drive or an ssd) and transferring files using Files app (aka the file browser app preinstalled on all iOS/iPadOS devices). Note: this relies on the assumption that you have an iPad with USB-C (aka pro models and some recent non-pro models).

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by piperswe »

runlevel1 wrote: post #287
Curzel wrote: post #38

I don't get it. People have been wondering when this would happen since the very first iPad Pro, so lots of people will be happy now... Even assuming all the required horse power is there, I still don't get it... Maybe I'm getting old.

> Even assuming all the required horse power is there, I still don't get it... Looks like the latest generation of iPad Pro and MacBook Air have comparable CPU benchmarks.[^1][^2] I'm with you in not getting it, though. Editing video on an iPad seems like it'd be a frustratingly constrained affair due to the UI. But I might just be getting old too. [1]: https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/macbook-air-2022 [2]: https:/…

Not only that, but the latest generation iPad Pro and MacBook Air have the same CPU (and SoC as a whole)

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by rgoulter »

carlosjobim wrote: post #298
coldtea wrote: post #169

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> People are broke and too undisciplined to save up even a little money, so normal software prices look huge in their eyes. That's why subscriptions and splitting a purchase is coming to everything now. Or people don't want to have to continuously pay to have access to some latest version, and prefer to update when they feel like it and need some new feature, not always. Producers and video editors especially hate to…

> Or people don't want to have to continuously pay to have access to some latest version, and prefer to update when they feel like it and need some new feature, not always. These people are not the target group for subscriptions, nor are they the majority. For large swatches of potential customers there are only two options that they accept: 1) Free or pirated 2) Low monthly value subscription.

> These people are not the target group for subscriptions, nor are they the majority.

The iPad app will only be available with a subscription.

This majority which does not prefer subscriptions do not have the option for "high cost one-time purchase".

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